HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-09-04_CCv0001.pdf MINUTES of the Planning Commission Meeting of the City of Redlands held Tuesday,
November 9, 2004, at 2:00 p.m. are as follows:
PRESENT: George Webber, Chair
James Macdonald, Vice-Chairman
Caroline Laymon, Commissioner
Thomas Osborne, Commissioner
Gary Miller, Commissioner
Paul Thompson, Commissioner
ABSENT: Ruth Cook, Commissioner
ADVISORY STAFF
PRESENT: Jeffrey L. Shaw, Director
John Jaquess, Assistant Director
Leslie E. Murad II, Assistant City Attorney
Robert Dalquest, Principal Planner/Project Manager
Manuel Baeza, Associate Planner
Alicia Heideman, Assistant Planner
I. CALL TO ORDER AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
The meeting was called to order at 2:00 p.m. by Chairman Webber. All commissioners were
present except Commissioner Cook.
Chairman Webber advised members of the audience that parking permits are available from the
secretary for those who are parked in the 30 minute parking zone.
II. CONSENT ITEMS - NONE
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.2004-3-D-Planning Commission to consider
a recommendation to the City Council on a Mitigated Negative Declaration and a
PUBLIC HEARING on a General Plan Amendment to: a) change the land use
designation from Agriculture to Very-Low-Density Residential on 41.22 gross acres
located on the west side of Wabash Avenue (Assessors Parcel Number 168-132-
05), south of San Bernardino Avenue, and north of Capri Avenue in the A-1,
Agricultural District. Request submitted by ARIEF NAFTALI.
B. AGRICULTURAL PRESERVE REMOVAL NO. 106 - Planning Commission to
consider a recommendation to the City Council on a Mitigated Negative Declaration
and a PUBLIC HEARING for an Agricultural Preserve Removal on 41.22 gross
acres located on the west side of Wabash Avenue (Assessors Parcel Number 168-
132-05), south of San Bernardino Avenue, and north of Capri Avenue in the A-1,
Agricultural District. Request submitted byARIEF NAFTALI. (Project Planner:Alicia
Heideman)
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C. ZONE CHANGE NO.406-Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to
the City Council on a Mitigated Negative Declaration and a PUBLIC HEARING for a
Zone Change from A-1,Agricultural District to R-E, Residential Estate District on one
parcel totaling 41.22 gross acres located on the west side of Wabash Avenue
(Assessors Parcel Number 168-132-05), south of San Bernardino Avenue, and
north of Capri Avenue in the A-1,Agricultural District. Request submitted by ARIEF
NAFTALI. (Project Planner: Alicia Heideman)
D. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 834 - Planning Commission to consider a
recommendation to the City Council on a Mitigated Negative Declaration and a
PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit Study and a PUBLIC
HEARING a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Residential Development(PRD)
on 41.22 gross acres into 93 residential lots and six(6)common lots located on the
west side of Wabash Avenue(Assessor Parcel Number 168-132-05), south of San
Bernardino Avenue, and north of Capri Avenue in the A-1, Agricultural District
(Proposed R-E Residential Estate District). Request submitted by ARIEF NAFTALI.
(Project Planner: Alicia Heideman)
E. TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 16878 - Planning Commission to consider a Mitigated
Negative Declaration, a PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit
Study, and a PUBLIC HEARING for a Tentative Tract Map to subdivide
approximately 41.22 gross acres into 93 residential lots and six (6) common lots
located on the west side of Wabash Avenue(Assessor Parcel Number 168-132-05),
south of San Bernardino Avenue, and north of Capri Avenue in the A-1,Agricultural
District (Proposed R-E Residential Estate District). Request submitted by ARIEF
NAFTALI. (Project Planner: Alicia Heideman)
Project Planner Alicia Heideman stated the applicant requested the proposed project be continued
to November 23rd to allow sufficient time for a redesign of the project.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote to continued General Plan Amendment, Agricultural Preserve Removal No. 106, Zone
Change No. 406, Conditional Use Permit No. 834, and Tentative Tract No. 16878 to the Planning
Commission meeting of November 23, 2004.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. COMMISSION REVIEW AND APPROVAL NO. 792 - Planning Commission to
consider a Mitigated Negative Declaration, a PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-
Economic Cost/Benefit Study, and consideration of a Commission Review and
Approval to construct a 259,572 square foot warehouse/distribution center located
north of Palmetto Avenue and west of Marigold Avenue in Concept Plan 2 of the
East Valley Corridor Specific Plan. Request submitted by PROLOGIS. (Project
Planner: Alicia Heideman)
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Project Planner Alicia Heideman stated the applicant submitted conceptual landscape plans as part
of the project submittal. Ms. Heideman stated the applicant would like to submit final landscape
plans, and is therefore requesting a continuance of the proposed project to November 23, 2004.
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.Seeing no comments forthcoming,Chairman Webber
closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Thompson, seconded by Commissioner Miller,and carried on a 6-0
vote to continue Commissioner Review and Approval No. 792 to November 23, 2004.
B. COMMISSION REVIEW AND APPROVAL NO. 793 - Planning Commission to
consider a Mitigated Negative Declaration, a PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-
Economic Cost/Benefit Study, and consideration of a Commission Review and
Approval to construct a 485,600 square foot warehouse/distribution center located
north of Palmetto Avenue and west of Marigold Avenue in Concept Plan 2 of the
East Valley Corridor Specific Plan. Request submitted by PROLOGIS. (Project
Planner: Alicia Heideman)
Project Planner Alicia Heideman stated the applicant requested the proposed project be continued
to allow sufficient time to submit final landscape plans.
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.Seeing no comments forthcoming, Chairman Webber
closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Thompson, seconded by Commissioner Laymon, and carried on a
6-0 vote to continue Commission Review and Approval No. 793 to the Planning Commission
meeting of November 23, 2004.
C. VARIANCE NO.691 -PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider
a Variance from Sections 18.196.160 of the Municipal Code to allow an increase in
the requirement for maximum lot coverage from 50 percent to 55 percent lot
coverage, in the C-4, Commercial Highway District, specifically located at 640 Texas
Street. Request submitted by TOM SIMPSON. (Project Planner:Alicia Heideman)
D. MINOR SUBDIVISION NO. 276- PUBLIC HEARING for Planning Commission
Consideration of a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit Study, and a Minor Subdivision
(Tentative Parcel Map No. 16739) to subdivide approximately 1.38 acres into two
lots located 640 Texas Street in the C-4 General Commercial zone. Request
submitted by TOM SIMPSON. (Project Planner: Alicia Heideman)
Project Planner Alicia Heideman gave a brief presentation on the proposed project. Ms. Heideman
stated the proposed project meets all development requirements except lot coverage and parking.
Ms. Heideman stated the applicant will provide the required parking, and submitted the application
for a variance to allow an increase of lot coverage from 50 percent to 55 percent.
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Commissioner Miller asked Ms. Heideman if there are other properties in the area that exceed lot
coverage. Ms. Heideman stated she was unable to located other properties that exceed lot coverage
because the buildings are old.
Commissioner Miller asked Ms. Heideman if she was aware of any long term plans by Cal Trans
relative to Interstate 10 and 215 that might encroach on the applicant's property. Ms. Heideman
stated she was not.
Commissioner Miller noted that the project will have tandem parking and he asked Ms. Heideman if
tandem parking is allowed. Ms. Heideman stated generally tandem parking is not allowed, however
since it is an auto body business, the applicant would have keys to all the vehicles so that they
could be moved if needed.
Ms. Heideman stated the building houses two businesses, Redlands Auto Body and Covington
Engineering
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.
Mr. Tom Simpson, owner of Redlands Auto Body, stated the property use will remain the same.
Mr. Simpson stated they are proposing to subdivide the property so that he can purchase, Redlands
Auto Body and Mr. Drew can purchase Covington Engineering.
Chairman Webber asked Mr. Simpson when the chain link fence that surrounds the property was
installed. Mr. Simpson stated the chain link fence was installed before he moved into the building in
April 1987.
Mr. Dan Drew, Covington Engineering, stated the fence was built in the 1970's.
Chairman Webber stated they generally do not approve chain link fences on street frontages and
he questioned why it would be necessary to have the fence.
Mr. Drew stated neither him nor Mr. Simpson is opposed to removing the chain link fence, however
there is a concern about graffiti. Mr. Drew stated there was a problem with the wall being graffitied
seven years prior and the current landlord does not want the chain link fence removed. Mr. Drew
stated if he and Mr. Simpson become the property owners,they are willing to landscape the property
with grass and trees.
Chairman Webber requested a Final Landscape Plan be made part of the project approval.
Chairman Webber suggested the frontage along Colton Avenue and Texas Street be landscaped
with trees and vines.
Mr. Simpson asked Chairman Webber for a recommendation on the types of trees to be planted.
Chairman Webber suggested fast-growing trees such as sycamores. Mr.Shaw stated that planting
of trees in the parkway would have to be coordinated with the Public Works Department. Mr. Shaw
stated the Commission evaluates the trees and other landscaping to be planted in the area behind
the sidewalk, up to the wall. Mr. Shaw suggested a Condition of Approval be added to the Minor
Subdivision that would require the Final Landscape Plans to be submitted for review and approval
by the Planning Commission prior to the Final Map.
Mr. Simpson indicated he would like to replace the chain link fence with brick pilasters and wrought
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iron at some future date. Chairman Webber stated the Commission approves of wrought iron
fences and Commissioner Osborne suggested Mr. Simpson speak with Ms. Heideman.
Commissioner Miller asked for clarification on the parking. Ms. Heideman stated the auto body
business has a high parking ratio and if the building were to be occupied by a future tenant,the high
number of parking spaces would probably not be needed.
Chairman Webber thanked Mr. Simpson and Mr. Drew for their cooperation.
Chairman Webber closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Laymon, seconded by Commissioner Macdonald,and carried on a
6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve the Socio-Economic Cost Benefit Study for Minor
Subdivision No. 276 as it has been determined that this project will not create unmitigable physical
blight or overburden public services in the community, and no additional information or evaluation is
needed.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Laymon, seconded by Commissioner Macdonald,and carried on a
6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve Variance No. 691 subject to the following findings
and attached Conditions of Approval:
1. There are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or conditions to this
property because the land use and structures on it are existing,
2. That the Variance from maximum lot coverage of the C-4, Highway
Commercial District is necessary for the enjoyment of the substantial
property right to own the property of your existing business which other
business owners in the C-4, Highway Commercial District have been
granted;
3. The applicant's request to exceed lot coverage will not have a negative
impact on the City, neighborhood, or any specific property owner.
4. The granting of the requested variance will not have any conflict with the
City's General Plan.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Laymon, seconded by Commissioner Macdonald,and carried on a
6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve Minor Subdivision No. 276 subject to conditions of
approval, and based upon the following findings:
1. The design or improvement of Minor Subdivision No. 276 is consistent with
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the applicable General Plan.
2. The site is located at 640 Texas Street and is physically suitable for the type
of development.
3. The site is physically suitable for the development of a two-lot subdivision.
4. The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not likely to
cause substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidable injure
fish or wildlife or their habitat.
5. The design of the subdivision or type of improvements is not likely to cause
serious public health problems.
6. The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will not conflict
with easements, acquired by the public or at large, for access through or use
of property within the proposed subdivision; and
7. Pursuant to California Government code Section 66474.6, the discharge of
waste from this subdivision will no result in violation of existing requirements
prescribed by the Santa Ana Regional Water quality Control Board pursuant
to Division of the California Water Code, with the addition of Condition of
Approval 13 to read:
Final landscape plan to include landscaping along Colton Avenue, Lawton Avenue, and
Texas Street shall be submitted to the Planning Commission for review and approval priorto
approval of the final map. Landscaping shall be installed or bonded prior to final map
approval.
and the addition of Condition of Approval 14:
The chain link fence along Colton Avenue and Texas Street except the area to protect the
rear parking area shall be removed prior to final map.
E. ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT NO. 306 - Planning Commission to consider
a recommendation to the City Council on a Negative Declaration, and a PUBLIC
HEARING on an Ordinance Text Amendment to modify Article III of Section
18.156 regarding Bed-and-Breakfast Inns. Request submitted by the CITY OF
REDLANDS. (Project Planner: Bob Dalquest)
Project Planner Bob Dalquest stated minor modifications were made to the ordinance to correct
provisions that were either antiquated or did not comply with state law. Mr. Dalquest stated the
City Attorney reviewed the amendment and identified six (6) issues for staff's consideration and
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five (5) of the six (6) issues were incorporated into the amendment. Mr. Dalquest reviewed the
modifications that were made:
(6) A small coffee/tea house,gift shop and/or restaurant is permitted in non residential zones as
long as the serving and/or sales area does not occupy more than 10%of the gross floor area
of the dwelling
(7) Allows the owner of the B &B to set the check-in hours for guests
(8) The B & B can be operated by a full-time manager who resides on the property in a
residential zone
(9) No limitation on meals served to the overnight guests instead of a breakfast only
(10) Establishes a maximum 30 days length of stay for guests of a B&B in a nonresidential zone
(11) The owner of the B&B shall keep and preserve for aperiod of three(3)years,all records of
rents and guests and allow the City to inspect the records
(12) B &B's in a nonresidential zone may have a sign that is a maximum of twenty(20) square
feet instead of a maximum of four(4) square feet
(13) Several minor administrative clean up items are incorporated that would comply with the
State Planning and Zoning laws relative to a Conditional Use Permit running with the land
and not the property owner,identifying the section of the code that pertains to the revocation
process of a Conditional Use Permit,and specifying the length of time where discontinuance
of a B & B will cause the Conditional Use Permit to be null and void
Commissioner Laymon expressed concern about having a 4X 5 foot internally lit sign. Mr.Dalquest
stated the sign will be externally lit.
Commissioner Miller expressed concern on the proposal to allow a full-time manager to operate a B
&B in a residential zone,stating he did not want to open the door for a 200%business operation in a
residential neighborhood. Mr. Dalquest stated all requests for a Conditional Use Permit of a B&B
in a residential neighborhood would be reviewed by the Planning Commission and staff felt that
appropriate Conditions of Approval would be required for all projects.
Commissioner Miller stated if three meals are served per day,the amount of refuse would be tripled.
He continued by stating he felt there should be language to dictate how refuse will be managed.
Commissioner Miller stated there should be a maximum square footage identified rather than 10%of
the gross floor area. Commissioner Miller asked if alcohol would be served on the premises with
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meals. Mr. Dalquest stated serving alcohol would be permitted in a non-residential zone and if the
B & B is located within 300 feet of a residential zone, the serving of alcohol would be permitted
only with a Conditional Use Permit.
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.
Ms. Deborah Harmon, owner of Queen's Court Bed and Breakfast, stated her goal was to preserve
the historic building and allow the public to use it. Ms. Harmon stated the license needed for a
coffee/tea house is different from the license needed for a restaurant. Ms. Harmon stated she would
like to provide more income to help pay for an employee who will be there during the day. Ms.
Harmon stated her daughter and son-in-law reside on the site.
Mr. Dalquest clarified that a coffee/tea house would be allowed in nonresidential zones,such as the
Administrative Professional district, where the Queen's Court Bed and Breakfast is located.
Mr.Dalquest noted that a commercial kitchen is required to have a restaurant that provides meals so
it might not be cost effective for a bed and breakfast to have a restaurant.Ms.Harmon stated she was
given specific guidelines as to what she would be allowed to do relative to operating a bed and
breakfast.
Ms. Suzanne Low, 1501 Crown Street, stated that she would like to see the B &B gift shops taken
out of residential areas. Mr. Dalquest responded by saying ancillary uses such as coffee/tea houses
or gift shops, would only be allowed in nonresidential zones.
Chairman Webber closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Miller requested that the issues be identified as to whether they are allowed in
residential or non residential zones, or both:
(1) A small coffee/tea house,gift shop and/or restaurant is permitted in non residential zones as
long as the serving and/or sales area does not occupy more than 10%of the gross floor area
of the dwelling
NON RESIDENTIAL ZONES ONLY
(1) Allows the owner of the B &B to set the check-in hours for guests
RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL ZONES
(2) The B & B can be operated by a full-time manager who resides on the property in a
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residential zone
RESIDENTIAL ZONES (ALREADY APPLIES TO NON-RESIDENTIAL)
(3) No limitation on meals served to the overnight guests instead of a breakfast only
NON RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES
(4) Establishes a maximum 30 days length of stay for guests of a B&B in a nonresidential zone
NON RESIDENTIAL ZONES
(5) The owner of the B&B shall keep and preserve for a period of three(3)years,all records of
rents and guests and allow the City to inspect the records
NON RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES
(6) B & Bs in a nonresidential zone may have a sign that is a maximum of twenty(20) square
feet instead of a maximum of four(4) square feet
NON RESIDENTIAL ZONES
(7) Several minor administrative clean up items are incorporated that would comply with the
State Planning and Zoning laws relative to a Conditional Use Permit running with the land
and not the property owner,identifying the section of the code that pertains to the revocation
process of a Conditional Use Permit,and specifying the length of time where discontinuance
of a B & B will cause the Conditional Use Permit to be null and void.
Commissioner Laymon stated having a non resident in a residential zone could pose a dilemma.
Commissioner Laymon stated she concurred with Commissioner Miller. Commissioner Macdonald
noted that type of use would require a Conditional Use Permit,which would have to be reviewed by
the Commission and Conditions of Approval could be imposed.
Commissioner Osborne stated he failed to see the difference between a paid manager and an owner
manager and how the operation would be managed differently.
Commissioner Miller stated generally speaking a rental property is not as well maintained as a
property where the owner resides. Commissioner Osborne stated a manager would attempt to make
a profit for the owner by maintaining the facility in spotless condition. Commissioner Miller stated
someone who does not have a vested interest in the property would not have the same motivation as
a person who does have an interest in the property.
Chairman Webber stated parking and noise are major issues with this type of project.
Commissioner Miller stated he did not believe an application for a Conditional Use Permit in a
residential zone could be conditioned to require the property owner as the onsite manager. Mr.
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Dalquest concurred with Commissioner Miller. Commissioner Miller suggested (c) be revised to a
nonresidential zone only.
Commissioner Macdonald stated Ms. Harmon's onsite manager is her daughter, who is not the
property owner.
Mr. Dalquest stated for those who concur with Commissioner Miller's recommendation, the text
would be left as it currently stands. Chairman Webber stated he felt the stricken text, as currently
written, may be unconstitutional.
Mr. Dalquest reminded the Commission that Conditional Use Permits are subject to revocation if the
property does not comply with Conditions of Approval or if they are intrusive to the neighborhood.
Commissioner Miller stated he did feel it was unconstitutional to try to keep a business out of a
residential neighborhood, and he believes it may open the door to introducing businesses into
neighborhoods. Commissioner Miller stated it is difficult to revoke a Conditional Use Permit.
Chairman Webber asked for discussion on the requirement that the sales area not occupy more
than 10% of the gross floor area of the dwelling.
Mr. Dalquest stated the requirement would not apply in a residential zone.
Commissioner Laymon stated she was uncomfortable with (c) but did not want to hold up Ms.
Harmon's application.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Osborne,seconded by Commissioner Thompson, and carried on a
5-1 vote(Commissioner Miller voting no) that the Planning Commission recommend approval to the
City Council on the Negative Declaration for Ordinance Text Amendment No. 306 and direct staff to
file and post a Notice of Determination in accordance with City guidelines. It is recommended that
this project will not individually or cumulatively affect wildlife resources as defined in Section 711.2 of
the California Fish and Game Code.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Osborne,seconded by Commissioner Thompson, and carried on a
5-1 vote (Commissioner Miller voting no) that the Planning Commission approve Planning
Commissioner Resolution No. 1049, recommending that the City Council adopt Ordinance Text
Amendment No. 306.
Mr. Shaw noted the next item is a Public Hearing and he asked that it be identified as such during its
reading.
F. VARIANCE NO. 687 - Planning Commission Consideration of a PUBLIC
HEARING for a Variance from Section 3 A.4.d.3 of Specific Plan No.33 to allow an
eleven (11) foot reduction from twenty-five (25) feet to fourteen (14) feet of the
required building setback from Alabama Street for a trellis structure attached to a
proposed drive through restaurant and for a Variance from Section 18.168.210 of
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the Municipal Code to allow for a three (3)foot reduction in width for a required five
(5)foot wide perimeter landscape planter both within a proposed shopping centerto
be located on the west side of Alabama Street, the south side of Lugonia Avenue,
and north side of Orange Tree Lane in the Commercial District of Specific Plan No.
33. Request submitted by RICK DEL CARLO, SILVERCREEK PROPERTIES.
(Project Planner: Manuel Baeza)
G. COMMISSION REVIEW AND APPROVAL NO. 786 - Planning Commission to
consider a Mitigated Negative Declaration, a PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-
Economic Cost/Benefit Study, and Planning Commission consideration of a
Commission Review and Approval to develop a six building commercial center
including two drive-through restaurants and a combined building area of 89,596
square feet of building area on a 7.4 acre property located on the west side of
Alabama Street, the south side of Lugonia Avenue, and north side of Orange Tree
Lane in the Commercial District of Specific Plan No.33. Request submitted by RICK
DEL CARLO, SILVERCREEK PROPERTIES. (Project Planner: Manuel Baeza)
H. MINOR SUBDIVISION NO.275-Planning Commission to consider a Mitigated
Negative Declaration,a PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit Study
and a PUBLIC HEARING for a Minor Subdivision (Parcel Map No. 16742) to
subdivide a 7.4 acre property into seven (7)commercial parcels located on the west
side of Alabama Street,the south side of Lugonia Avenue, and north side of Orange
Tree Lane in the Commercial District of Specific Plan No. 33. Request submitted by
RICK DEL CARLO, SILVERCREEK PROPERTIES. (Project Planner: Manuel
Baeza)
Project Planner Manuel Baeza gave a brief presentation on the proposed project,stating the project
requires a 6/7 vote of approval. Mr. Baeza stated staff is requesting that revisions be made to the
building elevations:
1. Give the west elevation the same treatment as the east elevation
2. Have the arch that is located at the south end of the building project out to cover a proposed
sidewalk
Mr. Baeza stated at the time of printing of the staff report, the Public Works Department had not
revised their Conditions of Approval for a meandering sidewalk on Lugonia Avenue. Mr. Baeza
stated the Conditions of Approval have been provided for the meeting.
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.
Mr. Pat Meyer, Urban Environs, stated he agreed with the staff report with the exception of
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Condition of Approval 44 which provides for thirty (30) foot setbacks on Alabama Street and
Lugonia Avenue for buildings found on Pads A, B, and C. Mr. Meyer stated staff requested the
applicant dedicate additional land beyond what is required in Specific Plan 33, in anticipation of
future widening of Alabama Street. Mr. Meyer noted the site is located outside of the East Valley
Corridor Plan. Mr. Meyer stated the applicant lost approximately ten(10) feet along the Alabama
Street frontage,which was not anticipated. Mr.Meyer stated their project provides more landscaping
in front of the buildings on Alabama Street than the buildings that are located in Citrus Plaza. Mr.
Meyer asked the Commission to consider leaving the buildings as proposed and he requested that
Condition of Approval 44 be deleted.
Mr. Meyer stated he did not concur with Condition of Approval 34. Mr. Meyer stated he worked
with staff and Commissioners Laymon and Miller relative to the architecture on Majors 1 and 2 and
substantial changes were made to the architectural treatments and the landscaping. Mr. Meyer
stated he did not think the west side of Major 1 should be a repetition of the east side of Major 2.
Mr. Shaw noted Condition of Approval 34 requires the proposed arch to project out approximately
five (5)feet versus one (1)foot and the elevation for the west side of Major 1 be revised so that it is
consistent with the east side of Major 2. Chairman Webber stated he supports the revisions
proposed by staff.
Chairman Webber stated he wants the extra five (5) foot setback on Alabama Street so that
everything in the Alabama corridor is consistent. Mr. Meyer stated he felt his project is superior to
what has been built at Citrus Plaza. Mr. Meyer stated they have the room to add the five (5)feet,
however he feels it dramatically impacts the pedestrian friendly arcade that has been created on the
west side of the building.
Chairman Webber stated the space could be taken from the parking area. Mr. Meyer disagreed with
Chairman Webber.
Mr. Baeza stated a compact parking space could be eliminated to provide the five (5)feet because
the project has 15 excess parking spaces. Mr. Meyer stated he would agree to the additional five
(5)feet if he can be shown how it will be acquired. Mr. Shaw stated it appeared the applicant would
lose seven (7) parking spaces to provide the additional five (5)feet.
Mr. Meyer stated his architect calculated the parking area to have one (1) excess parking space.
Mr. Baeza noted that staff's calculation was based on retail use, however Mr. Meyer stated
restaurants will be part of the project, which requires a higher parking requirement.
Mr. Meyer stated if the Commission requires him to push back Building C, it will come out of the hard
scape.
Mr. Jeff Rothpart, a partner in the project, stated the site is not located in the East Valley Corridor
Specific Plan (EVCSP)and they have given up ten (10)feet of the site to widen Alabama Street. Mr.
Rothpart stated everyone wants a plaza area with outdoor seating, and yet he is being asked to
eliminate the outdoor seating area to provide five (5) additional feet of landscaping. Mr. Rothpart
stated he wanted it on record that they are trying to make the project better, and it is going to
constantly be a problem.
Chairman Webber stated it makes sense to make the corridor consistent. Chairman Webber stated
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he is not requiring the applicant to meet all EVCSP requirements because other projects have been
approved that are not consistent with the EVCSP.
Mr. Meyer stated he wanted it noted for the record that he will not lose parking and the additional
five (5)feet will be taken from the arcade area.
Chairman Webber closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Osborne stated he concurs with Mr. Meyer on Condition of Approval 44; the
requirements for EVCSP do not apply to the site because it is located in Specific Plan 33, and he
does not think it is fair to ask the applicant to comply with its requirements.
Chairman Webber stated the development of Alabama Street is driven by the requirements of the
EVCSP, and he feels it is reasonable to request that the project tie in with the EVCSP landscaping
requirements.
Commissioner Thompson concurred with Commissioner Osborne and stated if the additional five(5)
feet was necessary for the travel way to be widened, he would not have a problem with the request.
Commissioner Thompson stated he felt it was unfair to change the rules in the middle of the game.
Commissioner Thompson stated he felt the landscaping plan is very nice.
Commissioner Miller stated there is a nice interplay between the two buildings at the corner,where
one building is set back further from Alabama Street than the other. Commissioner Miller stated he
agrees with the fact that the proposed project complies with Specific Plan No. 33 and not the
EVCSP.
Commissioner Macdonald concurred with Commissioners Osborne,Thompson,and Miller,that the
additional five (5) feet will not accomplish very much and the applicant does comply with the
requirements of Specific Plan No. 33.
Commissioner Laymon stated when speaking with the developer,they discussed Specific Plan No.
33, not EVCSP. Commissioner Laymon stated if there is confusion on this matter,she would tend to
support the applicant.
Chairman Webber stated he will go with the decision of the majority.
Mr. Jaquess noted Commissioner Miller brought up a good point relative to setback of the corner
building, stating the average setback for the project is more than thirty(30) feet.
Chairman Webber requested discussion on Condition of Approval 34.
Commissioner Miller stated he has no opinion on increasing the depth of the colonnade on the south
side. Commissioner Miller stated the west side has a minimal amount of landscaping and he
suggested introducing the middle element of the building onto the west side. Commissioners
Osborne, Macdonald,Thompson,and Webber concurred. Mr. Baeza recapped that there would be
no additional projection of the arches on the south side of Major 2 and the west side of Major 1will
not have tower elements.
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Chairman Webber reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Rick Del Carlo, applicant, suggested having an 18 inch pop out on the west side.
Commissioner Miller stated he is reluctant to impose his ideas on the applicant; he would prefer to
allow the applicant some leeway. Commissioner Miller stated if the Commission would like to see a
double arch above the parapets, it is an improvement over what is currently proposed for the west
elevation.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve the Mitigated Negative Declaration for
Commission Review and Approval No. 786 and Minor Subdivision No.275 and direct staff to file and
post a "Notice of Determination" in accordance with City guidelines. It is recommended that this
project will not individually or cumulatively affect wildlife resources as defined in Section 711.2 of the
California Fish and Game Code.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve the Socio-Economic Cost Benefit Study for
Commission Review and Approval No. 786 and Minor Subdivision No.275. It is recommended that
this project will not create unmitigable physical blight or overburden public services in the
community, and no additional information or evaluation is needed.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve a reduced LOS at the intersection of Alabama
Street/Redlands Boulevard during the peak hours as permitted in General Plan Policy 5.20b and
5.20 c.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve Variance No.687 subject to the following findings
and attached Conditions of Approval:
1. There are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property or the intended use that do not apply generally to other properties or uses in
the same vicinity and zone.There are conflicting street width requirements between
Specific Plan No. 33 and the General Plan that do create an exceptional condition
for this property.
2. That the variance is necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of a substantial
property right possessed by other properties in the same vicinity and zone district,
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but which is denied to the property in question. There are other property owners in
the same vicinity and zone along Plum Lane that have less than the required building
setback and have less landscaping at the perimeter of the parking areas.
3. That the granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or
injurious to the property or improvements of others in the vicinity. The reduced
setback and landscaping would be consistent with existing neighboring development
located along Plum Lane.
4. That the granting of the variance will not adversely affect the General Plan of the City
of Redlands. The granting of the variance will help implement objectives of the
General Plan for the width of Alabama Street.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve Commission Review and Approval No. 786,
subject to the following findings and subject to the attached Conditions of Approval:
1. That the site for the proposed use is adequate in size and shape to accommodate
the use.
2. That the site properly relates to adjoining street which are designed and improved to
carry the type and quantity of traffic to be generated by the proposed development.
3. That the conditions of approval proposed for Commission Review and Approval No.
786 are necessary to protect the public health, safety and general welfare.
4. That the use is desirable for the overall development of the community.
5. The proposed project will be consistent with the existing Commercial Designation of
the General Plan with a revision to Condition of Approval 34 to read:
Elevations for the west side of Major 1 shall be revised to incorporate additional architectural
features to include two(2)arches as proposed for the west side of Major 2. The Community
Development Director shall have final approval over all architectural details for the project
including but not limited to tile accent features, decorative lighting fixtures, trellis finish
work, and column trim,
and the Deletion of Condition of Approval 44.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Macdonald,seconded by Commissioner Thompson,and carried on
a 6-0 vote that the Planning Commission approve Minor Subdivision No.275 subject to conditions of
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approval, and based upon the following findings:
1. The proposed map as amended is consistent with the City's General Plan,Municipal
Code and Specific Plan No. 33. The project has a General Plan land use
designation of Commercial and is consistent with the General Plan, Municipal Code,
and Specific Plan No. 33;
2. The site is physically suitable for the type of development. The site is large enough
to subdivide into seven (7) commercial parcels;
3. The site is physically suitable for the density of development of a seven (7) unit
commercial subdivision. The General Plan Land Use Designation of Commercial
and zoning of Specific Plan No. 33 both allow for commercial subdivisions;
4. The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not likely to cause
substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably injure fish or wildlife
or their habitat. The subject site is not identified as being within an area containing
biological resources or within a wildlife corridor;
5. The design of the subdivision or type of improvements is not likely to cause serious
public health problems;The initial study prepared for the project includes mitigation
measures addressing the project's potential to create health problems;
6. The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will not conflict with
easements, acquired by the public at large, for access through or use of property
within the proposed subdivision;
7. That pursuant to California Government Code Section 66474.4, of the Subdivision
Map Act the land is not subject to a contract entered into pursuant to the California
Land Conservation Act of 1965. The property is not in an agricultural preserve.
I. MINOR SUBDIVISION NO. 283- PUBLIC HEARING for Planning Commission
Consideration of a Minor Subdivision (Tentative Parcel Map No. 16686)to subdivide
approximately14.39 acres into five (5) lots for an industrial park located south of
Almond Avenue and north of Lugonia Avenue and west of Research Drive in
Concept Plan No. 1 of the East Valley Corridor Specific Plan. Request submitted by
WESTERN REALCO. (Project Planner: Manuel Baeza)
Project Planner Manuel Baeza gave a brief presentation on the proposed project.
Chairman Webber opened the public hearing.Seeing no comments forthcoming,Chairman Webber
closed the public hearing.
Mr. Baeza stated at the time of the original approval of the industrial park,the landscaping met Code
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requirements for the minimum width of planters, however with the addition of property lines, there
are specific requirements that state you cannot count curbing in the width of a planter. Mr. Baeza
stated the planter can be shifted to meet Code requirements.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Laymon, and carried on a 6-0
vote that Minor Subdivision No. 283 does not require further environmental processing, pursuant to
Section 15162 of the California Environmental Quality Act Guidelines, based on the following
findings:
1. The proposed project would not result in new significant environmental effects or a
substantial increase in the severity of previously identified effects;
2. No substantial changes have occurred with respect to the circumstances under
which the project will be undertaken; and,
3. There is no new information of substantial importance with respect to this project's
environmental consequences that was not known at the time the previous Mitigated
Negative Declaration was adopted.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Laymon, and carried on a 6-0
vote that the Planning Commission approve Minor Subdivision No. 283 subject to conditions of
approval, and based upon the following findings:
2. The proposed map is consistent with the City's General Plan, Municipal Code and
Concept Plan No. 1 of the East Valley Corridor Specific Plan;
3. The site is physically suitable for the type of development. The site is large enough
to subdivide into five (5) commercial parcels;
4. The site is physically suitable for the density of development of a five (5) parcel
subdivision. The General Plan Land Use Designation of Industrial/Commercial and
zoning of Concept Plan No. 1 of the East Valley Corridor Specific Plan both allow for
commercial subdivisions;
4. The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not likely to cause
substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably injure fish or wildlife
or their habitat. The subject site is not identified as being within an area containing
biological resources or within a wildlife corridor;
5. The design of the subdivision or type of improvements is not likely to cause serious
public health problems;
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6. The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will not conflict with
easements, acquired by the public at large, for access through or use of property
within the proposed subdivision;
7. That pursuant to California Government Code Section 66474.4, of the Subdivision
Map Act the land is not subject to a contract entered into pursuant to the California
Land Conservation Act of 1965. The property is not in an agricultural preserve.
5. ADDENDA
F. Alcoholic Beverage Control License Transfer for Redlands Mini Mart located at 402
E. Redlands Boulevard
Assistant Director John Jaquess stated there were no comments from the Police Department and staff
supports the request for the license transfer.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Thompson,seconded by Commissioner Osborne,and carried on 6-0
vote that the Planning Commission approve the Off-Sale General Alcoholic Beverage Control
License person to person and location to location transfer for Redlands Mini Mart and no conditions
are recommended as there are no problems associated with this site.
VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
B. October 12, 2004
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Osborne,seconded by Commissioner Macdonald,and carried on 4-0
vote (Commissioners Laymon and Miller abstaining) that the Planning Commission approve the
Planning Commission minutes of October 12, 2004.
B. October 26, 2004
MOTION
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It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Macdonald, and carried on 4-0
vote(Commissioners Osborne and Thompson abstaining)that the Planning Commission approve the
Planning Commission minutes of October 12, 2004.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE/COMMUNICATIONS
A. City Council Report
Mr. Shaw gave a brief presentation on the City Council actions of November 2nd
B. Status of Major Projects
Mr. Shaw gave a brief presentation on the Status of Major Projects report.
VIII. ADJOURN TO NOVEMBER 23, 2004
The meeting was adjourned to November 23, 2004, at 4:39 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Patti Ortiz, Senior Administrative Assistant Jeffrey L. Shaw, Director
Community Development Department Community Development Department
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