HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Minutes 11-14-06_CCv0001.pdf MINUTES: of the Planning Commission Meeting of the City of Redlands held Tuesday,
November 14, 2006, at 2:00 p.m. are as follows:
PRESENT: James Macdonald, Chairman
Thomas Osborne, Vice Chairman
Paul Foster, Commissioner
Gary Miller, Commissioner
Ruth Cook, Commissioner
John James, Commissioner
ADVISORY STAFF
PRESENT: Jeff Shaw, Director
Robert Dalquest, Principal Planner
Michael Reiter, Assistant City Attorney
Manuel Baeza, Senior Planner
David Jump, Associate Planner
Tamara Alaniz, Assistant Planner
I. CALL TO ORDER AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD - 3 MINUTES
Chairman Macdonald called the meeting to order. All Commissioners were present except
Commissioners Shamp and Miller.
II. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. GRANITE HOMES
(PROJECT PLANNER: DAVID JUMP)
Planning Commission consideration of an extension of time for TENTATIVE TRACT NO.
16287 and CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 815 a planned residential development
consisting of 76 single-family residential lots and 5 open space lots on a 66.20 acre site
within the R-E, Residential Estate District located north of Reservoir Road and east and
west of Wabash Avenue.
B. HEEMSTRA SIGNS
(PROJECT PLANNER: TAMARA ALANIZ)
Planning Commission to consider Commission Sign Review No. 316 for one (1), five
square foot multiple family identification sign on the northeast side of Cajon Street at 331
Cajon Street(APN: 0171-371-03).
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 5-0 vote to
approve the Consent Calendar.
Commissioner Miller arrived at 2:01 p.m.
Item III A. Citrus Packing LLC was tabled at 2:02 p.m.
III. OLD BUSINESS
B. TOM CUTLER, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: MANUEL BEAZA)
1. Planning Commission to consider a Mitigated Negative Declaration.
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2. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a Socio-Economic
Cost/Benefit Study.
3. Consideration of Commission Review and Approval No. 842 - a Commission
Review and Approval for an approximately 1,890 square foot two-story building
addition to the retained portion of the Y Alliance building and a new parking area
to be located at 16 E. Olive Avenue (southeast corner of Olive Avenue and
Cajon Street) in the A-P, Administrative Professional Office District.
4. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider Parking
Modification Permit No. 24 - a Parking Modification Permit for the Y Alliance
building located at 16 E. Olive Avenue (southeast corner of Olive Avenue and
Cajon Street) in the A-P, Administrative Professional Office District.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Principal Planner Bob Dalquest stated that the Joint Use Parking Agreement had not been finalized and
recommended continuance to the meeting of November 28,2006.
Chairman Macdonald asked if anyone in the audience wished to address the Commission. No comments
were forthcoming and Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Osborne, and carried on a 6-0 vote
that the Planning Commission continue the Mitigated Negative Declaration, Socio-Economic cost/Benefit
Study, Parking Modification Permit No. 24 and Commission Review and Approval No. 842 to November
28, 2006.
A. CITRUS PACKING LLC, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: MANUEL BAEZA)
1. Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the City Council on a
Mitigated Negative Declaration.
2. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council on a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit Study.
3. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council on Agricultural Preserve Removal No. 115 - an Agricultural
Preserve Removal on approximately 3.5 acres located on the northeast corner
of San Bernardino Avenue Texas Street in the A-1, Agricultural District
(Proposed C-3, General Commercial District).
4. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council on General Plan Amendment No. 112 amending the General
Plan Land Use Designation from Agriculture City Grove to Commercial for 5.39
acres located at the northeast corner of Texas Street and San Bernardino
Avenue.
5. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council on Zone Change No. 425 from A-1, Agricultural District to
proposed zoning of C-3, General Commercial District for 5.39 acres located at
the northeast corner of Texas Street and San Bernardino Avenue.
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6. Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the City Council on
Commission Review and Approval No. 829 to develop a four (4) building
commercial center with110,512 square feet of floor area on approximately 5.39
acres located at the northeast corner of Texas Street and San Bernardino
Avenue in the A-1, Agricultural District (proposed C-3 General Commercial
District).
7. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council for Minor Subdivision No. 301 (Tentative Parcel Map
No.17873) to subdivide approximately 5.39 acres into 4 lots for property located
at the northeast corner of Texas Street and San Bernardino Avenue in the A-1,
Agricultural District(proposed C-3 General Commercial District).
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner Manuel Baeza stated that the project was continued from the meeting of September 26,
2006 due to concerns on the proposed architecture. Mr. Baeza gave a brief overview of the project
stating that staff preferred the original design of the building as opposed to the current proposal. Staff
recommended approval of the project with the original architecture subject to the conditions of approval.
Mr. Baeza stated that the applicant prepared a presentation for the Commission that addresses the new
architecture proposed for the project.
Chairman Osborne commented on the art work and asked if it would go to the Cultural Arts Commission
for review. Director Shaw stated that the ordinance was not in effect.
Chairman Macdonald asked why there was a motion for reduced level of service on Redlands Boulevard
and Alabama Street. Mr. Baeza stated that the traffic study for this project showed a few trips going
through the Redlands Boulevard and Alabama Street intersection which necessitates a motion.
David Agnew, representing David Evans and Associates, outlined the prior architectural components and
gave an overview of how the new architecture evolved. Mr. Agnew indicated that Commissioners Miller
and Shamp provided feedback throughout the process. Mr. Agnew stated that they completely
redesigned the building with mixed use retail on the bottom and office use on the two upper levels. Mr.
Agnew passed around a material board to the Commissioners for their review. Mr. Agnew presented
several exhibits that displayed the elevations, courtyards, color scheme, parking areas, landscaping, and
cultural enhancements to the site that represented North Redlands history and culture.
Commissioner Osborne stated that he preferred the revised plan but commented that the cornice looked
thin and asked for feedback from the other Commissioners.
Commissioner Miller commented that he liked the direction that this project has gone with its classical
proportions but concurred with Commissioner Osborne relative to the cornice being too light and needing
more mass added. Commissioner Miller also recommended raising the cornice slightly at the southeast
corner of the center building. Mr. Agnew stated that they could accommodate that and it could be added
as a condition of approval.
Commissioner Miller commented that the architect demonstrated a great degree of sensitivity and design.
Mario Saucedo, Chairman of the North Redlands Visioning Committee, supported the approval of the
project and appreciated being part of the planning process. Mr. Saucedo stated that the unique
contemporary look is good for the area and recommended that the Commission approve the project.
Commissioner Miller asked if there were CC&R's (Conditions, Covenants and Restrictions) in place
obligating that unified maintenance and aesthetics be maintained on the property. Mr. Baeza referred to
conditions of approval number thirty-one (31)which requires CC&R's.
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Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Cook commented that she liked the proportion of the building, the courtyard and colors,
and was very supportive of the project. Commissioner Foster concurred with Commissioner Cook and
commented that working with some of the Commissioners and with the community has produced a
product that he can support.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Mitigated Negative Declaration
for Agricultural Preserve Removal No. 115, General Plan Amendment No. 112 Zone Change No. 425,
Commission Review and Approval No. 829, and Minor Subdivision No. 301. It is recommended that this
project will not individually or cumulatively affect wildlife resources as defined in Section 711.2 of the
California Fish and Game Code.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Socio-Economic Cost Benefit
Study for Agricultural Preserve Removal No. 115, General Plan Amendment No. 112 Zone Change No.
425, Commission Review and Approval No. 829, and Minor Subdivision No. 301. It is recommended that
this project will not create unmitigable physical blight or overburden public services in the community, and
no additional information or evaluation is needed.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 1112, recommending to the City
Council approval of Agricultural Preserve Removal No.115.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 1113, recommending to the City
Council approval of General Plan Amendment No.112.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve Planning Commission Resolution No. 1114, recommending to the City
Council approval of Zone Change No. 425.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council a reduced LOS at the intersection of Alabama
Street/Redlands Boulevard during the peak hours as permitted in General Plan Policy 5.20b and 5.20c.
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MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of Minor Subdivision No. 301 subject
to conditions of approval, and based upon the following findings:
1. The proposed map is consistent with the City's General Plan, Municipal Code; the project
has a General Plan land use designation of Commercial and is consistent with the
General Plan, Municipal Code, and;
2. The site is physically suitable for the type of development; the site is large enough to
subdivide into a four(4) parcel commercial center;
3. The site is physically suitable for the density of development of a four (4) parcel
commercial center; the proposed General Plan Land Use Designation of Commercial
and proposed zoning of C-3, General Commercial District both allow for commercial
subdivisions;
4. The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not likely to cause
substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably injure fish or wildlife or
their habitat; the subject site is not identified as being within an area containing biological
resources or within a wildlife corridor;
5. The design of the subdivision or type of improvements is not likely to cause serious public
health problems; the initial study prepared for the project includes
mitigation measures addressing the projects potential to create health problems;
6. The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will not conflict with
easements, acquired by the public at large, for access through or use of property within
the proposed subdivision; buildings will not be located over existing easements;
7. That pursuant to California Government Code Section 66474.4, of the Subdivision Map
Act the land is not subject to a contract entered into pursuant to the California Land
Conservation Act of 1965; the property is not under Williamson Act Contract.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission recommend approval to the City Council of Commission Review and Approval
No. 829, subject to the following findings and subject to the attached Conditions of Approval:
1. That the site for the proposed use is adequate in size and shape to accommodate the
use; the project meets all development standards of the C-3, General Commercial
District;
2. That the site properly relates to Texas Street and San Bernardino which are designed
and improved to carry the type and quantity of traffic to be generated by the proposed
development;
3. That the conditions of approval proposed for Commission Review and Approval No. 829
are necessary to protect the public health, safety and general welfare;
4. That the use is desirable for the overall development of the community; the project will
provide new shopping and employment opportunities to City residents;
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5. The proposed commercial center will be consistent with the proposed Commercial
Designation of the General Plan.
The motion includes the addition of conditions of approval number forty one (41) and forty two (42) as
follows:
41. The cornice found at the southeast corner of building three (3) shall be raised subject to review
and approval by the Community Development Director.
42. The mass of all building cornices shall be increased subject to review and approval by the
Community Development Director.
C. TANDY HILL, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: TAMARA ALANIZ)
1. Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the City Council on a
Negative Declaration.
2. Public hearing for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the
City Council on AGRICULTURAL PRESERVE REMOVAL NO. 116 on
approximately 12.43 acres (APN: 0294-091-39) located north of San Timoteo
Canyon Road and west of Alessandro Road in the A-1, Agricultural District.
3. Public hearing for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the
City Council on ZONE CHANGE NO. 428 from A-1, Agricultural District to R-R,
Rural Residential District and FP-1, Floodplain District on approximately 12.46
acres (APN: 0294-091-39, and 32) located north of San Timoteo Canyon Road
and west of Alessandro Road.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner Tamara Alaniz stated that the project was continued from the October 24th, 2006 meeting
to bring forward an agricultural preserve removal application for consideration and to provide a map
indicating the parcels and their adjacencies relative to the applicant's property. Ms. Alaniz gave an
overview of the project and recommended that only a portion of the property be rezoned to R-R. Ms.
Alaniz read a letter that was received from Redlands resident, Lisa Pierce, who requested that
appropriate right-of-way and easement for connectivity be required as part of any zone change
agreement. Ms. Alaniz stated that staff reviewed Ms. Pierce's request and since there is no development
proposed with the zone change, staff can not condition the zone change to reflect Ms. Pierce's request.
Staff recommended the approval of the zone change and agricultural preserve removal and to adopt
Resolution No. 1115 and 1116.
Chairman Macdonald asked if the questions raised by Ms. Pierce would be valid if a development was
proposed. Ms. Alaniz responded that it would be valid and that those types of impacts would be
accessed on the basis of what impacts any development would have on those biological issues.
Chairman Macdonald asked how this project relates to the new San Timoteo Canyon State Park and how
close the property was to the park. Ms. Alaniz was not able to determine an exact distance but that it was
located a few miles southeast of the project.
Director Shaw stated that the City is trying to acquire some land within the canyon area in close proximity
of the applicant's property to provide natural open space within the canyon.
Commissioner Osborne commented on the trails and stated that he assumed that there were no existing
trails on this site.
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Commissioner Miller commented on the zone change and asked why staff does not condition anything
relative to future development. Ms. Alaniz stated that staff is not allowed to condition a zone change by
law.
Chairman Macdonald stated that he had a lengthy conversation with Ms. Pierce and that most of the
issues discussed where outlined in her letter.
Chairman Macdonald asked if the applicant wished to address the Commission.
Tandy Hill, applicant, stated that he owned his property for twenty-five years when it was part of the
County. He commented that this zone change was promised to him by the City when he annexed back in
1979. Mr. Tandy stated that he does not have any development plans at this time.
Bill Cunningham, representing the Redlands Association, commented that he strongly feels that this zone
change is premature and inappropriate. Mr. Cunningham had concerns that this is a lynch pin with regard
to development of the rest of the canyon as precedent setting. He stated that prior to any zone change of
this sort, a full environmental review should be completed.
Helen Waitz, resident, questioned why the zone change was being requested now. She commented on
the rural area and agriculture. She concurred with Mr. Cunningham's concerns relative to the
environment.
Amanda Frye, resident, agreed that the zone change and agricultural removal is highly suspicious. She
stated that the agricultural removal and zone change are short sighted and precedence setting. Ms. Frye
felt that a full EIR ( Environmental Impact Report) is essential before any zone change and agriculture
removal can be taken.
Theresa Kwappenberg commented that she believed that the property is resource preservation rather
than resource conservation and asked if she was correct. Ms. Alaniz stated that she was correct that it
was resource preservation. Ms. Kwappenberg commented on the resource preservation issues and
stated that she had concerns doing a zone change without seeing the project. Ms. Kwappenberg
concurred with Mr. Cunningham and Ms. Frye in requesting an Environmental Impact Report.
Carolyn Laymon, resident, stated that the project raised a few red flags relative to the zone change being
evaluated without a tentative tract map and possibly losing out on the development of a trail. Ms. Laymon
would like to see the zone change come forward with a tentative tract map.
Chairman Macdonald asked if anyone else wished to speak on this subject. No comments were
forthcoming and Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Chairman Macdonald asked if Mr. Hill wanted to respond to any of the comments.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Mr. Hill commented that he did not object to the trail and that his request is not eroding anything in the
canyon, and that almost fifty (50) percent of it is the creek which is protected by the Flood Control
easement. Mr. Hill stated that all the rules and regulations with the habitat, ERA and environmental, are
already in place.
Commissioner Foster asked Mr. Hill if he had any plans to bring forward a project on the site and why he
was requesting the zone change at this time. Mr. Hill stated that he has no plans for a project at this time
but that it was his intent to eventually put more homes on the property. He thought it was the right time to
look at preserving his rights as a property owner, especially based on the 200 houses across the street
and at some point in time, may entertain building there.
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Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Osborne asked to see the map with the flood plain.
Commissioner James appreciated the rights of the property owner and wanting to do those things that
protect those rights. He stated that the reasons for a zone change should be unique and compelling and
he does not see that at this time.
Commissioner Foster stated that his concerns were similar to Commissioner James. He also did not see
a strong and compelling reason to approve the zone change at this time without seeing what it means
long term to the canyon and site as a whole.
Commissioner Osborne referred to the map showing the flood plain stating that there is a flood control
easement there and nothing can be built.
Commissioner Miller shared the concerns relative to preserving the canyon and agricultural heritage. He
asked if the Commission can require environmental reviews based on a zone change alone and if there
needs to be a project with a specific development proposed prior to assessing it. Director Shaw
answered Mr. Miller's questions.
Commissioner Osborne stated that is appears that the Commission is reluctant to approve a zone change
without a specific project and suggested giving the applicant the opportunity to withdraw this proposal and
come back with a specific development.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Mr. Hill commented on the concerns of the Commission and asked if was possible to continue the project
to work out some of the issues addressed today with his consultant. Chairman Macdonald stated that the
project could be continued to address the concerns of the Commission.
Commissioner Osborne questioned the length of the continuance with Chairman Macdonald stating that it
would be continued long enough for the applicant to resolve the issues. Director Shaw stated that there
were no constraints from a staff standpoint and that it would be up to the applicant.
Mr. Hill asked for a continuance of thirty (30) days. Director Shaw stated that a thirty day continuance
would bring the project back to the Commission at their December 12, 2006 meeting.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission continue Agricultural Preserve Removal No. 116 and Zone Change No. 428 to
the meeting of December 12, 2006.
D. JOHN HIEBERT, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: JOSHUA ALTOPP)
1. PUBLIC HEARING for a Socio-Economic Cost/Benefit Study.
2. PUBLIC HEARING for MINOR SUBDIVISION NO. 299 to subdivide Assessor
Parcel Number 0172-321-43 totaling 68,591 square feet into two parcels one
totaling 19,288 square feet with an existing house and the other parcel totaling
49,303 undeveloped vacant land within the R-S, Suburban Residential District
located at 1107 Cypress Avenue.
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Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner Bob Dalquest stated that staff is recommending continuance to the November 28, 2006
meeting to resolve issues relative to the conditions of approval for undergrounding utilities. Mr. Dalquest
stated that staff has asked Public Works Director Ron Mutter to make a presentation to the Commission
on Rule 20 to address the City's direction on undergrounding utilities throughout the City.
Chairman Macdonald asked when Mr. Mutter was planning on making his presentation. Director Shaw
stated that Mr. Mutter was in the audience and could answer questions relative to Rule 20.
Public Works Director Ron Mutter gave a brief synopsis of the Rule 20 program and referred to the
handout that was provided to each of the Commissioners.
Commissioner Osborne had questions relative to the improvements at Alabama and Redlands Boulevard
and Colton Avenue. Mr. Mutter answered Mr. Osborne's questions.
Commissioner Miller had questions relative to undergrounding the utilities on the Hiebert project and
asked if it was preferred by Public Works to have the money to use at their discretion or to have the
developer make the improvements. Director Mutter did not have an answer relative to Commissioner
Miller's first question and stated that he would get back to him. To answer the second question, Director
Mutter stated that it is a local policy decision that could be implemented by the City Council.
Chairman Macdonald asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak on this item.
Bill Cunningham, resident, had concerns relative to Mr. Heibert paying in lieu fees instead of
undergrounding utilities.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Miller asked Director Mutter if there was a pay back plan that could be implemented with
respect to undergrounding the utilities.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Director Mutter stated that there was not a pay back plan.
Commissioner Osborne asked Director Mutter if Public Works was investigating and evaluating the
Hiebert undergrounding issue. Director Mutter stated that this requirement comes from the Planning
Department but that both he and Director Shaw work together and review the actual site conditions before
any final recommendation is made.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Miller, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission continue Minor Subdivision No. 299 to the November 28, 2006 meeting.
IV. ADDENDA
FINDING OF GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY FOR SALE OF CITY OWNED
PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF WABASH AVENUE NORTH OF
RESERVOIR ROAD IN TRACT 16586
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Project Planner Bob Dalquest gave an overview of the proposed sale of two parcels of land. Staff
recommended that the sale of the parcels is consistent with the General Plan and would also implement
the intent of the Planning Commission and City Council when the tract was originally approved.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission determine that the proposed sale of the subject parcels as shown in Exhibit "A"
to Granite Homes to be included as part of Tract 16586 is consistent with the General Plan.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. CITY OF REDLANDS, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: TAMARA ALANIZ)
1. Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the City Council on a
Negative Declaration.
2. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a recommendation
to the City Council on ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT NO. 313 adding
Chapter 18.170 to the Redlands Municipal Code establishing development
standards for publicly displayed artwork, a public art program, and an inventory
of existing public art located on public or private property.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner Tamara Alaniz gave an overview of the proposed Ordinance Text Amendment. She
advised that a revised ordinance was received from the City Attorney with a few minor changes in the
wording and reviewed each change with the Commission.
Chairman Macdonald referred to section 18.170.030 stating that it seemed vague and asked for
clarification relative to the percentage. Ms. Alaniz clarified that the percentage is on the total valuation of
buildings associated with the project. Chairman Macdonald asked if that needed to be clarified in the
ordinance. Director Shaw stated that changing the wording would make it clearer and will get together
with City Attorney McHugh.
Commissioner Cook asked if this ordinance was similar to those used in other cities. Director Shaw gave
a brief overview of how the ordinance developed stating that a number of different ordinances from other
cities were reviewed and evaluated.
Commissioner Osborne referred to section 18.170.030 and asked if something should be included for the
low end projects, such as paying an in lieu fee. Ms. Alaniz clarified the section of the ordinance.
Commissioner Osborne asked if a clause could be written into the ordinance that would allow the
Community Development Director or staff make the determination that the applicant either put in artwork
or pay an in lieu fee. Director Shaw stated that it is important that the applicant make the choice of either
paying the fee, putting in artwork, or a combination of the two.
Commissioner James followed up on Commissioner Osborne's question asking if this is a development
fee. Assistant City Attorney Michael Reiter stated that it is not a development fee but rather a zoning
requirement.
Commissioner James asked if it was legal to say that we just want in lieu fees and that the City or Cultural
Arts Commission can determine where the money goes. Director Shaw stated that he did not believe so
and commented that the basis for the ordinance is to say that this is a zoning requirement to require
public art and that the in lieu fee provides some flexibility in the ordinance.
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Ms. Alaniz continued reviewing the changes in the ordinance. Ms. Alaniz stated that she worked with
Director Shaw to give the Commission an idea of what size of development would have what type of
valuation and the type of artwork that would be required and gave examples of several projects. Staff
recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 1117, recommending the approval of
the Ordinance Text Amendment to the City Council.
Commissioner Foster asked at what point the fees would be due and payable in the project process. Ms.
Alaniz responded that the art work should be installed at the point when occupancy was issued. In lieu
fees would be paid at time of permit issuance.
Commissioner Foster asked if staff looked at all the projects that met that standard or received an
occupancy notice during the course of a year and if there was a calculation relative to how much money
would be generated for this effort in a year's time. Director Shaw stated that there was some analysis
done initially to see what kind of revenue would be generated but that nothing had been done recently
with the .050 percent.
Commissioner Osborne asked how fees would be established for developments built in phases. Director
Shaw stated that the actual artwork is reviewed up front, would go through the Cultural Arts Commission
with a proposed piece of art work to get that approved, and would have to have the art work constructed
prior to the first occupancy. If they paid in lieu fees, staff would require the fees to be paid at the issuance
of the building permits and based on the valuation of the homes being built.
Chairman Macdonald asked if the development community provided input on the proposed ordinance.
Director Shaw stated that there was some discussion between the Cultural Arts Commission and certain
members of the development community but he did not know to what extent.
Commissioner James had questions relative to funds for maintenance and inventorying the artwork and
asked if some of the GIS systems in the City could be used as a database. Both Director Shaw and Ms.
Alaniz addressed Commissioner James questions.
Commissioner Miller had a question relative to someone subdividing and grading lots and then selling
them and asked if they would be assessed a fee on the grading permit since there would not be a building
permit. Director Shaw addressed Commissioner Miller's question.
Chairman Macdonald referred to page four (4) of the ordinance and asked why there was a minimum of
five lots when one home could be constructed for one million dollars. Director Shaw addressed Chairman
Macdonald's question.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing and stated that he had a speaker slip from Dora Waters
along with a two page letter addressed to the Commission.
Dora Waters, 1333 E. Colton Avenue, read a two page letter to the Commission addressing that the
usage of the fees is unclear, that the fees were excessive, and had suggestions for an alternative Public
Art Ordinance. Ms. Waters opposed the current version of the ordinance stating that it would not bring
positive results to future home buyers and apartment renters and would create higher real estate prices to
the consumer.
Fred Edwards, member of the Cultural Arts Commission, was available for questions. He made it clear
that the Arts Commission was not proposing a tax. Mr. Edwards spoke about the current buildings in the
City that have art incorporated in the structure such as Washington Mutual, the Police Annex and the
University of Redlands Science building. Mr. Edwards spoke about the caps and fees and the process
involved in writing the proposed ordinance.
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Chairman Macdonald asked how the development community was involved in their discussions. Mr.
Edwards stated that they spoke informally with some developers and asked Shirley Leonard, who was in
the audience, if any formal meetings were held with the developers.
Shirley Leonard stated that she was the Chair for the Cultural Arts Commission when the ordinance was
initiated and gave a brief overview relative to why the ordinance was proposed. Ms. Leonard stated that
is was her understanding that Mayor Harrison and Chairman Clark Morrow met with a least one or more
of the development community.
Mr. Edwards commented that Mayor Harrison's discussion with the developers resulted in lowering the
percentage rate from .095 to .050.
Dora Waters stated that the business community was not given proper notice and was not involved in the
proposed ordinance. She requested that the ordinance be continued to obtain involvement with others in
the community.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Commissioner James supports the concept of the ordinance and would like to see art in public places. He
stated that there appears to be a lot of comments on the proposed ordinance as written and did not know
if it was appropriate to continue this to discuss the issues addressed.
Commissioner Miller stated that he was not keen on having a threshold of $300,000. and did not favor a
cap. He mentioned that schools get a substantial amount of money for development and that should be
considered.
Commissioner Cook stated that she supported the ordinance.
Commissioner Osborne stated that the ordinance was a good way to get art into the City but that it
needed some refinement.
Commissioner Foster stated that he has no problem with developers paying fees to the City and is not in
opposition with having art in public places but had concerns with the City not operating on a positive
margin. He stated that when the community is flush with money, then an ordinance like this one could be
proposed. He liked the idea but stated that the timing was not right.
Chairman Macdonald stated that he was a past member of the Redlands Art Association and enjoys art
but concurs with Commission Foster relative to the needs in the City to maintain our quality of life. He
feels that the ordinance is poorly written and that there are too many issues that need addressing.
Commissioner Osborne agreed that the rate was too high. He supports the ordinance in theory but
cannot vote to recommend it to the City Council.
Chairman Macdonald commented that it was discussed earlier to continue this to refine the ordinance and
asked Director Shaw for direction.
Director Shaw stated that if the Commission is asking staff to refine the ordinance, more direction would
be needed from the majority of the Commission and commented on some of the suggestions from the
Commission.
Commissioner Miller asked if it was possible to modify the ordinance to state that anything that falls under
the discretionary category follows as Director Shaw proposed and anything not in the discretionary
category automatically pays an in lieu of fee with no involvement. Director Shaw stated that staff could
explore that suggestion.
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Director Shaw stated that he has heard a number of issues but not anything in terms of amending the
code. Staff had identified a number of changes that were more of a reflection of the new ordinance and
mentioned that cap was another discussion point.
Commissioner James stated that he had the comments on the percentages or minimum and maximums
on how the funds should be spent.
Director Shaw stated that there were percentages in earlier drafts of the ordinance and it was felt that
those limitations might pose problems in implementing their programs. Those percentages were taken
out to give flexibility to the Cultural Arts Commission in particular and Council overall in administrating the
program.
Director Shaw stated they could go through earlier drafts and put back in some of those percentages that
had been taken out.
Ms. Alaniz suggested that Community Development could work with the Finance Department to set up
the fund structure based on public and Commission input.
Commissioner Miller asked about the selection or approval of the art and asked how it would be
controlled. Director Shaw stated that the Cultural Arts Commission has the ability to review, approve,
deny or recommend changes.
Chairman Macdonald asked if there was any discussion when developing the ordinance so that it affected
all City residents, and not a select group.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Mr. Edwards addressed Chairman Macdonald's question and issues relative to the ordinance.
Bill Cunningham, resident, had concerns relative to equity of fees. He stated that if this is to be art in
public places, he would like to see physical art rather than money dissipated into schools. Mr.
Cunningham stated that he did not have a clear understanding of how the art would be maintained.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Chairman Macdonald commented that he is a big supporter of the arts but that the Symphony and
Redlands Bowl support themselves. He stated that there has to be another way to do this rather than
indirectly taxing new development. Chairman Macdonald asked Director Shaw what was the next step.
Director Shaw stated that staff would be willing to work on components of the ordinance and would like to
propose some modifications to take back to the Cultural Arts Commission. He stated that he is seeing
recurring themes such as having a fee put in place from an equity standpoint, putting a cap on the upper
end, and addressing concerns about programs as opposed to physical art.
Chairman Macdonald stated that all the questions raised indicate that the ordinance is not tight enough
and does not have enough specific answers. He added that when we are dealing with this kind of money,
its use, and application, it needs to be specifically outlined from the inception.
Commissioner Foster suggested that the ordinance go back to the Cultural Arts Commission with a strong
recommendation that they prepare a ballot measure for the next general election for the public to weigh in
on this issue. Commissioner Foster stated that he will vote against continuing and approving the
ordinance.
Commissioner Osborne referred to page eleven (11), section 18.170.070 B and had concerns relative to
the educational funds. Chairman Macdonald stated that it did not give any limitation on the amount.
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Commissioner James stated that he liked the concept but that the execution of the concept does not
seem viable. He stated that the concept does go toward creating Redlands as a better destination, with
a better viability of people coming here to spend money and create more revenues. Commissioner
James stated that he is not comfortable with the document and cannot support it as written.
Chairman Macdonald concurred with Commissioner James stating that the document was just too loose.
Commissioner Osborne commented that there should be a better presentation in the ordinance relative to
having enough funds retained to do the maintenance on the artwork and to run all the programs.
Director Shaw recommended that this item be continued for at least thirty (30) days to give staff the
opportunity to meet with the City Attorney and representatives from the Cultural Arts Commission to
address the issues that were raised by the Commission.
Commissioner Osborne asked that staff look at some cities that have had this program in effect for at
least ten (10) years and see how it has worked for them and if it has been self sustaining. Chairman
Macdonald asked to see a report on all the development for the 2006 year and the dollars that would
have been generated based upon the formula.
Commissioner Miller clarified his position relative to charging everybody a fee. He stated that ultimately,
the City will build out with a lot of art to maintain and should consider things such as building permits for
remodels, since that is largely what the City will have once it builds out.
Mr. Shaw stated that he would explore with the City Attorney if we can apply a fee for those discretionary
issues which could be applied uniformly on all permits.
Mr. Osborne asked how much time was needed for a continuance. Mr. Shaw requested thirty (30) days
to the December 12, 2006 meeting.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 4-2 vote,
(Commissioners Macdonald and Foster opposed), that the Planning Commission continue Ordinance
Text Amendment No. 313 to the meeting of December 12, 2006.
Chairman Macdonald recessed the meeting at 5.25 p.m.
Chairman Macdonald reconvened the meeting at 5:32 p.m.
B. BRENTWOOD COMMUNITIES, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: JOSHUA ALTOPP)
1. Planning Commission to consider a Mitigated Negative Declaration.
2. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider a Socio-Economic
Cost/Benefit Study.
3. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider Conditional Use
Permit No. 886 - a Conditional Use Permit for a 38 unit townhome development
on approximately 4.10 acres located on the northwest corner of Orange Avenue
and Nevada Street in the EV 3000RM, Multi-Family Residential District.
4. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider Tentative Tract
Map No. 17962 - a Tentative Tract Map to subdivide approximately 4.10 gross
acres into thirty-eight (38) number lots and one (1) lettered lot for the purpose of
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town homes for the property located at the northwest corner of Orange Avenue
and Nevada Street in the EV 3000RM, Multi-Family Residential District.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner Manual Baeza gave an overview of the proposed project. Staff recommended approval
of the project subject to the conditions of approval.
Chairman Macdonald commented on the setback between the two buildings and asked if it included the
patio area. Mr. Baeza responded that it included the patio area. Chairman Macdonald asked what the
distance was patio to patio. Mr. Baeza stated that the distance with the changes as recommended by
staff was fourteen (14)feet.
Pat Meyer, representing the applicant, concurred with the staff report and agreed with the mitigation
measures and conditions of approval.
Commissioner Miller commented on the nice detail on the garage door and wanted confirmation that they
would be used in the final plan. Mr. Meyer confirmed that the garage doors shown in the plans would be
used. Commissioner Miller asked what type of material would be used for the shutters. Mr. Meyer asked
the applicant in the audience who stated that a composite material would be used.
Commissioner James stated that he liked the project and architecture. He asked if the setback issues
would be eliminated if they removed lots one, two and three. Mr. Meyer stated that two lots were already
dropped and that this project has significant offsite improvements to complete. He added that the
applicant would need to reconsider the whole concept and get into a condo type project if more units are
lost.
Chairman Macdonald concurred with Commissioner James stating that all the other buildings are nicely
laid out but had concerns that the two buildings with rear private yards have only fourteen (14) feet
between them would not provide a quality of life for the property owners. He added that eliminating the
three units would allow separating those buildings properly and would take care of the additional
requirement for parking. Mr. Meyer stated that the additional parking was not a problem.
Director Shaw suggested that the three properties be moved four (4) feet to the north but stated that it
would be short by about six feet. Director Shaw stated that if you lost one more unit and shifted the two
units further to the north, you could pick up 6 feet without losing all three units.
Chairman Macdonald asked if there would be a block wall. Mr. Baeza stated that the private patios would
have block walls.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Chairman Macdonald commented that the property owners are entitled to more space between their units
and that the Commission has made that a policy on many other proposals brought before them. He
added that it could be achieved quite easily with the change of the three units up above.
Commissioner James commented that he is intrigued with Director Shaw's suggestion of losing only one
of the three lots and allowing everything to move farther to the north.
Commissioner Miller concurred with Commissioner James stating that every project needs to comply with
Measure U.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
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Mr. Meyer commented that the objective is to get forty (40) feet between the rear of the structures and
asked if that was what the Commission was requesting. Commissioner James responded yes. Director
Shaw stated that it would be thirty-four (34)feet with the changes that staff recommended.
Mr. Meyer stated that he would agree to provide the forty(40)feet between the two structures and that lot
three may not have to be eliminated. He stated that one unit may have a side entry garage which he can
swing around and will be attached differently than the others and then, move it north. Mr. Meyer agreed
to an additional condition that would provide the forty feet along with doing something with lots one, two
and three in order to get the extra six(6)feet.
Commissioner James clarified that the motion for waiver would not be required. Commissioner Osborne
stated that was correct.
Chairman Macdonald asked if this should come back or if the Commission was satisfied in allowing staff
to accomplish the distance between the buildings. Commissioner Osborne stated that it states in writing
that you need forty feet. Mr. Meyer stated that it would be a minor change and that they will either drop
lot three or swing it around.
Chairman Macdonald stated that the motion for waiver of development standards has been eliminated.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Miller stated for the record that the project will be in substantial compliance.
Director Shaw commented that it is his understanding that the only change to the map and overall
development would pertain to the three northerly lots that might be reconfigured in some way, either
modifying one unit or a possible reduction by a unit. He added that if it is something broader, it may need
to be brought back to the Commission.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve the Mitigated Negative Declaration for Tentative Tract Map No. 17962
and Conditional Use Permit No. 886 and direct staff to file and post a "Notice of Determination" in
accordance with City guidelines. It has been determined this project will not individually or cumulatively
affect wildlife resources as defined in Section 711.2 of the California Fish and Game Code.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve the Socio-Economic Cost Benefit Study for Tentative Tract Map No.
17962 and Conditional Use Permit No. 886 as it has been determined that this project will not create
unmitigable physical blight or overburden public services in the community, and no additional information
or evaluation is needed.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve a reduced LOS at the intersection of Alabama Street/Redlands
Boulevard and the intersection of California Street/Redlands Boulevard during the peak hours as
permitted in General Plan Policy 5.20b and 5.20c.
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MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve Tentative Tract Map No. 17962 subject to conditions of approval, and
based upon the following findings:
1. The proposed map is consistent with the City's General Plan and the East Valley Corridor
Specific Plan. The project has a General Plan land use designation of Medium Density
Residential and a zoning of EV/3000RM, Multiple Family Residential District and is
consistent with both the General Plan and the East Valley Corridor Specific Plan;
2. The site is physically suitable for the type of development. The site is large enough to
subdivide into thirty-eight(38) lots for condominium purposes and one common area lot;
3. The site is physically suitable for the density of development of a thirty-eight (38) unit
subdivision. The General Plan Land Use Designation of Medium Density Residential and
EV/3000RM, Multiple Family Residential District Zoning both allow for the proposed
thirty-eight(38)dwelling units;
4. The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not likely to cause
substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably injure fish or wildlife or
their habitat. The subject site is not identified as being within an area containing
biological resources or within a wildlife corridor;
5. The design of the subdivision or type of improvements is not likely to cause serious public
health problems. This is a residential project and is not likely to cause any serious public
health problems, aside from temporary air quality and noise impacts during construction
addressed in the project's Mitigation Measures;
6. The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will not conflict with
easements, acquired by the public at large, for access through or use of property within
the proposed subdivision;
7. That pursuant to California Government Code Section 66474.4, of the Subdivision Map
Act the land is not subject to a contract entered into pursuant to the California Land
Conservation Act of 1965. The property is not in an agricultural preserve.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Foster, and carried on a 6-0 vote that
the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit No. 886 subject to the following findings:
1. The proposed development will not adversely affect the applicable land use plans of the City.
The project is a multiple family development in an area designated for medium density residential
development;
2. The proposed development will not be detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare. The
project is designed with adequate street access and will meet all building codes;
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3. The proposed development will comply to the maximum extent feasible with the regulations of the
City's General Plan, applicable zoning district, and the City's development standards. The project
is consistent with the General Plan and meets development standards of the EV/3000RM,
Multiple Family Residential District of the East Valley Corridor Specific Plan;
4. The proposed development is appropriate at the proposed location. The project site is within an
area of the City that is being developed with medium density residential units. Along Orange
Street there are a number of multiple family residential projects running from Tennessee Street to
the City's western boundary."
5. The conditions for the proposed use are reasonably related to the use to address potential effects
of the proposed use, and are necessary to protect the public health, safety, and general welfare
and the best interests of the neighborhood.
This includes the addition of the following condition of approval:
The project shall provide the minimum rear yard setback as established in EV3000 RM for all residential
buildings within the project and the site plan shall be adjusted in accordance with the staff and
Commission's recommendations.
C. GRIFFIN INDUSTRIES, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: DAVID JUMP)
1. PUBLIC HEARING for the Planning Commission to consider an AMENDMENT
TO TRACT MAP NO. 12382 to allow a re-alignment of Panorama Point Drive
due to slope constraints at the eastern boundary of the original tract map which
would result in a reduction of.26 acres, or 11,325 square feet, of lot area to the
existing 1.49 acre lot 23 located at 820 Panorama Point Drive in the R-A-A,
Residential Estate Animals District.
Chairman Macdonald opened the public hearing.
Project Planner David Jump gave a brief overview of the proposed amendment and gave a PowerPoint
presentation. Staff recommended approval of the amendment subject to the conditions of approval.
Chairman Macdonald asked if the applicant was available to address the Commission.
Richard Davalos, representing Griffin Industries, concurred with the staff report and requested the
Commission's approval.
Chairman Macdonald closed the public hearing.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Osborne, and carried on a 6-0 vote
that the amendment for final Tract Map No. 12382 does not require further environmental processing,
pursuant to Section 15162 of the California Environmental Quality Act Guidelines, based on the following
findings:
A. The proposed project would not result in new significant environmental effects or a
substantial increase in the severity of previously identified effects because the proposed
amendment to the map includes the same amount of residential lots, contains the same
design as previously proposed, and no significant change to the overall project site will
occur.
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B. No substantial changes have occurred with respect to the circumstances under which the
project will be undertaken; the proposed tract will be constructed in the same manner as
the previously approved project and,
C. There is no new information of substantial importance with respect to this project's
environmental consequences that was not known at the time the previous Mitigated
Negative Declaration was adopted; no new information is available that would have an
impact on the proposed project's environmental consequences.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner James, seconded by Commissioner Osborne, and carried on a 6-0 vote
that the Planning Commission approve the amendment to Final Tract Map No. 12382.
D. ALAN RONSKA, APPLICANT
(PROJECT PLANNER: MANUEL BAEZA)
1. Planning Commission to consider a recommendation to the City Council on
ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT NO. 312 amending Section 15.36.340 of the
Redlands Municipal Code pertaining to allowable signs in the M-2, General
Industrial District.
Ordinance Text Amendment No. 312 was withdrawn.
VI. MINUTES
A. October 24, 2006
It was moved by Commissioner Foster, seconded by Commissioner James, and carried on a 6-0 vote to
approve the minutes of October 24, 2006.
VII. LAND USE AND CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS OF NOVEMBER 7, 2006
Mr. Shaw gave a brief presentation on the City Council Actions of November 7, 2006.
VIII. ADJOURN TO NOVEMBER 28, 2006
Chairman Macdonald adjourned the meeting at 6:05 p.m. to November 28, 2006.
Christine Szilva Jeffrey L. Shaw, Director
Senior Administrative Assistant Community Development Department
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