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1 MINUTESof a regular meeting of the City Council, City of Redlands, held in the .)
i, Council Chambers, Safety Hall, 212 Brookside Avenue, on August 4, 1981, at ��
7:00 P.M.
PRESENT Charles G. DeMirjyn, Mayor fig:
James W. Gorman, Vice Mayor
Barbara Cram Riordan, Councilmember
Ken Roth, Councilmember
(i Chris C. Christiansen, City Manager s
Dallas Holmes, City Attorneyt,.
q, Mike Riddell, Attorney
Peggy A. Moseley, City Clerk �i,
Ted Randolph, Redlands Daily Facts
1'! Pat Brown, The Sun �
ABSENT Oddie J. Martinez, Jr., Councilmember
The meeting was opened with the pledge of allegiance followed by the invo-
cation by Reverend Lowell Linden of the First Congregational Church.
Minutes of the regular meeting of July 21., .1981, were approved after Vice �k
Point Mayor Gorman clarified that the three special areas he had called Council
of attention to in the minutes of the meeting of July t 21, 1981, Page 7, were 'J
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recommendations of the Sign Committee, and that the first and third werei,
open items to be determined by Council.
' ORAL PETITIONS FROM THE FLOOR
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Conditional Mr. Norman Langley representing Redlands Tenn-Orange requested that Council;
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Use give final approval to Conditional Use Permit No. 329 subject to receipt
Permit
No. 329of San Bernardino County Flood Control approval and completion of all
Final departmental requirements. This request was approved by AYE votes of all (,
\� Approval present on motion of Councilman Roth, seconded by Councilman Riordan.
COMMISSION REPORTS '
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Plannng Commission
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Tract No. 10083 - Vanguard Companies
F After reviewing the materials regarding Vanguard Companies' request for a
stay of time alloted to Tentative Tract No. 10083 pursuant to Section
66452.6, paragraph C of the State Map Act, and Attorney Taylor's statements
;u that the pending litigation does not affect Vanguard's rights, Councilman
Gorman moved to deny this request. Motion seconded by Councilman Roth.
Colleen Dyck, project manager for Vanguard Companies clarified she was
K1" requesting a stay rather than a time extension as their time extension
expires February 17, 1982, and that recording now would create a hardship
in view of the pending lawsuit.
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City Attorney Holmes pointed out the City cannot grant any further time
extensions under the Government Code regulations and that Section 66452.6
applies only for the part litigating. By virtue of state law, this request
was denied by AYE votes of all present.
"R 2. Minor Subdivision No. 94 - Wayne Hutchison - Time Extension
U�I�r�r On motion of Councilman Gorman, seconded by Councilman Riordan, a time
extension of one year to August 19, 1982, was given by AYE votes of all
present for Minor Subdivision No. 94.
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3. Tract No. 8124 - Falcon West-Yucaipa Investment - Final Approval
All requirements as outlined in Council minutes dated May 1, 1973, having
been complied with, it is the recommendation of the Planning Department
that final approval be given Tract No. 8124. On motion of Councilman
Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman, this recommendation of the Planninq
Department was approved by AYE votes of all present.
y=. Traffic Commission - will meet at 2:15 P.M. on August 20, 1981. Council a
was reminded there will be vacancies on the commission. Interested member t
of the public were invited to apply.
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I COMISSION REPORTS (Continued) J1
Airport Advisory Board - will meet Monday, August 17, 1981, at 3:30 P.M. j (
in the City Hal Con erence Room and consider borrowing $8,000 from the
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�} City to purchase fire suppression equipment and the use of a parcel of
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t� Historic and Scenic Preservation Commission - On motion of Councilman
Riordan, seconded by Councilman Roth, Council approved by AYE votes of lit"s
all present an application to include the exterior of a residence located
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at 102 West Lugonia Avenue on the Historic and Scenic Property Register,
} i Register The home is owned by Daniel and Gloria Jimenez and is the first registered
N', property from the historically designated Lugonia district of Redlands.
Chairman Meryl McDowell described the home for Council and discussed the
requirements for acceptance.
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The Historic and Scenic Preservation Commission will not meet in August.
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Mayor DeMirjyn requested that a letter of appreciation be sent to the
property owners at Alvarado and Highland Avenue across from the orange _
�s grove for their extensive cut-stone curbing rehabilitation.
APPLICATIONS AND PETITIONS �� 1
City Attorney Holmes explained that under Section 2123 of the Redlands
z Ordinance Code, the Friends of the A. K. SmileLibrary's annual book
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Annual sale qualifies as a civic activity for which no business license is
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4ale required. On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman.,
approval was given for the holding of this book sale by Friends of the
�J?f Library by AYE votes of all present. s�l�
COMMUNICATIONS '
1' Councilman Gorman recommended that the request for crosswalks at Pine and lit,s
tr Tennessee Streets made by the superintendent of the Regional Occupational
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�) Program be referred to the attention of the Traffic Commission. { "fit
NEW BUSINESS
City Attorney Holmes corrected the first "Whereas" of Resolution No. 3769 �,`t
yto read: "WHEREAS, Ordinance No. 1680, Section V, provides for implemen-
tation of the procedures required under the ordinance to be adopted by ,,,"
resolution."
F, Resolution No. 3769 is a resolution of the City Council of the City o£
Resolution
No. 3769 Redlands establishing October 1, 1981, as the completion date for the
first-half allocation of building permits, and December 31, 1981, as the
1981 completion date for the second-half allocation of building permits for ��'�;
Allocation
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Dates qualifying residential projects in accordance with Ordinance No. 1680, as �?
amended. This resolution was adopted by AYE votes of all present on
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## motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman, following
lengthy Council discussion and a prior motion.
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Councilman Gorman commended
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�k Schindler's recommendations on revision of Ordinance No. 1680 and further
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modifications of the point count; recommended Council study this document;'
set next meeting for further consideration and action, or discussion; and
I} Discussion action, or discussion; and set for first reading.
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No. 1600 Councilman Riordan suggested waiting until completion of the first 1981 �,y,
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allocation. She also expressed concern for possible effect upon the sec-
ond 1981 allocation. Following further discussion, Council accepted ( ,
Attorney Holmes' recommendation to let the people be judged by the points
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that were in place when they submitted their application, Dr. Roth agreed" „\�t
and added that he believed it should be made effective after the first of
January.
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tNEW BUSS NESS (Continued)
On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman, Resolution:
Resolution
No. 370 No, 3770, a resolution of the City of Redlands fixing the rate and levying,
the property tax for the Sewer Fund Debt Service for $1.031 on each $100
Tax Rate of the assessed value on all taxable property for the fiscal year 1981-82,�
was adopted by AYE votes of all present. �1?`
Councilman Riordan asked that Council return to New Business to consider
a Sign Advisory Committee, spoke of the objective viewpoint of a committee
Sign composed of staff and a Council representative, of the varied problems p1f
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Committee which such a committee could review and of the justice rendered. She then)
�i moved that staff bring to Council at the same time as the public hearing
on the Sign Code Ordinance (September 1, 1981) an amending ordinance to
establish a sign advisory committee, with suggestions for procedures and
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ji Council discussed the sign review procedures at length, differentiating
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3<,1 buildings, with Diane Clark of the Chamber of Commerce and Ray Heemstra,
sign painter; received input from Mr. Schindler and Mr. Dale. Mr. Schind- �,k�,
ler was requested to review the wording of this portion of the ordinance ,
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Staff was requested to. "take a harder look at current signs that are
illegal and to make a listand be prepared to move."
a At this time, Mayor DeMirjyn announced, "This evening we had a closed
Meet session in Citv Hall at 6:00 P.M. and the purpose of this meeting was to >>:
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Confer hear from and consult with City representatives under the meetand confer ,
process - this is for the record,"
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UNFINIS$ED BUSINESS �
�} Dr. Roth requested that the Council to go back to Unfinished Business in
order to move on the Sign Code Ordinance and to give it first reading
tonight and set public hearing for September 1, 1981. Mr. Gorman seconded!
this motion and reviewed the tape of the last meeting on this matter.
Councilman Riordan spoke of the additional need of a Sign Advisory Committ e,,,
Ordinance This was discussed briefly, and it was recommended that it be adopted by
No. 1710 a separate ordinance as was the Fence Advisory Committee. Mr. Schindler �
Sign Code added that the location of freeway signs would also require an ordinance.
In the discussion following the motion, recommendation was made to revise
Section 84509 dealing with amortization of signs; however, after further
input by Councilman Riordan and Director of Building and Safety Dale, this ) N
was withdrawn. Mayor DeMirjyn stated that he was not ready to give this
ordinance first reading, and called for the vote which was:
wy AYES: Councilmembers Gorman, Riordan, Roth
1;,�( NOES: Mayor DeMirjyn
ABSENT: Councilmember Martinez
ILLUMINATED STREET SIGNS j
}ku,4� Councilman Roth stated that they had been polled tentatively during the .
)fit orf} last week or two as to whether Council members were in favor of having
lighted street signs at the corner of Colton and Tennessee; that he feels
t" a policy statement may be in order and that the people do not really under r
stand the costs. Both Dr. Roth and Mr. Gorman stressed the fact that them
concerns are with the expense; $1200.00 for the signs and $161.00 per
intersection per year for electricity to light the signs. Mr. Gorman =j
�sq'v described alternatives which he feels would be effective. He also spoke
of the dwindling City reserve funds. '
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UNPINILED BUSINESS (Continued)
Mrs. Riordan stated that it is essential to have some alternatives; that
she feels the lighted-sign signals are proper at the intersection of
Colton Avenue and the freeway off-ramp; and that she has received commenti �
that people would like larger signs. Dr.. Roth replied that flourescent
signs are not an alternative because these cost $400 each, or $1200 per I "M
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intersection, so what he wants is to not buy any more signs - he stressed
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that is his point.
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Public Works Director John Donnelly addressed Council. He explained that
larger signs are available, they are aluminum reflectorized, however, the
car headlights do not reach that height. "I suggest we install these at
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Tennessee and Colton and see if they meet your approval. We do not need
{{1 hard, fast rules since not many signals are put in although there has bee
a rash of them recently." a,
Vice Mayor Gorman described signs in the Tippicanoe Industrial Center in
San Bernardino which are larger corner signs, white on green, reflector-
ized and very visible. He suggested Council view these during the coming
month. He added that these would be for "standard corners." ,s
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Dr. Roth added that he does not disagree with the installation of lighted "A
street signs at the Colton Avenue/Tennessee Street corner because of the ��
high traffic and people coming from the off-ramp who don't know where they
are. "That is the place for these signs in a town like Redlands," said
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,t Mr. Christiansen: "Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, our understanding
is to proceed at the intersection of Tennessee and Colton with illuminate )�
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CITY MANAGER
B AYE votes of all resent Council approved three out-side the cit
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Water water connections for Irvin N. Kuhn for a proposed land division on Opal
Service) Avenue and Seventh Street, Parcel, Map No. 7067, on motion of Councilman
Gorman, seconded by Councilman Riordan. �f�(
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Funds On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman, Council
City Hail approved an appropriation of $2,200.00 for City Hall restoration specifi-
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cations submitted by Mel Green. 5'
iq Council approved, by AYE votes of all present, appropriations of $576.590.00
Encumbrances for encumbrances to cover outstanding obligations at the end of the fiscal �s�£
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year 1580-81 on motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gormap.
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On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Gorman, Council I
jI option "B" approved by AYE votes of all present an Option "B" Water Contract between
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the City and Robert W. Bell and Karen A. Bell as to an undivided one-half � .'
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# interest and Raymond J. Soudant and Joyce L. Soudant, as to an undivided
�t one-half interest with Federal Land Bank of Sacramento as pledgee.
On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded b Councilman Gorman, claims in
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the names of Beverly Lemke and Laurie Spain were denied in by AYE votes
Claims of all �t resent in routine manner and referred to the City's insurance
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carrier.
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CITY ATTORNEY
"Request a closed session on four brief items covered b the Attorney
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(t<,} client privilege. I also have on your Mobile home drafting that we are
undertaking in your behalf, a pending matter from the prior City Attorney,
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I have a table here that will tell more than you would perhaps like to
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know about other city's mobile home rent ordinances, a copy for each of
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' you from the League of California Cities. I ask that you take one andLO
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� at your leisure give me some of your ideas as to good or bad portions from
other cities.
Bills and salaries were ordered paid as approved by the Finance Committee.! ""I
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iiZ&'t There being no further business, the Council adjourned on motion at 8:20
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P.M. to a closed session as requested by the City Attorney. i
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Next regular meeting will be September 1, 1981. The City Council,
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traditionally does not meet on the second Tuesday in August.
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At 9:50 P.M. the City Council adjourned their executive session concerning! �
Pole attorney/client relationships to the regular meeting where it was moved
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Sign by Councilman Gorman, seconded by Councilman Roth, that the moratorium i
�rNm,, Moratorium concerning pole signs be continued until such time as the revised sign )
t;r ordinance becomes effective.,
The motion was adopted by AYE votes of all present City Council Members. ;
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The Mayor adjourned the meeting at 9:51 P.M. to September 1, 1981.
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