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MINUTEST of a regular meeting of the City Council, City of Redlands, held in the (
Council Chambers, Safety Hall, 212 Brookside Avenue, on February 2, 1982,
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it PRESENT Charles G. DeMirjyn, Mayor
James W. Gorman, Vice Mayor
Oddie J. Martinez, Jr. , Councilmember „
Barbara Cram Riordan, Councilmember
�it f Ken Roth, Councilmember
Chris C. Christiansen, City Manager
Dallas Holmes, City Attorney
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Peggy A. Moseley, City Clerk �
Glenn Cunliffe, Redlands Daily Facts I "�
�I}i Pat Brown, The Sun fir;
Charles Roberts, KBON Radio
ABSENT None
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�rti;s The meeting was opened with the pledge of allegiance, followed by the
p invocation by Sanitation Director Harold Moore,
<<i Minutes of the regular meeting of January 19, 1982, were approved as �y
submitted. �
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}'`;,(,t}? PUBLIC HEARINGS ! }
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i Public hearing was advertised for this time and place on Ordinance No. 177211,
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Ordinance an ordinance of the City of Redlands requiring the provision of water t`
No. 1772 lines and fire hydrants in conjunction with certain building construction
or change in use. Mayor DeMirjyn declared the meeting open as a public
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and hearing for any questions or comments concerning this ordinance; none being; i
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drantis forthcoming, the public hearing was declared closed. The reading-in-full
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of Ordinance No. 1772 was unanimously waived on motion of Councilman
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Riordan, seconded by Councilman Martinez. Ordinance No. 1772 was then
flj�r15J ` adopted on motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Martinez, !,
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by the following roll call vote: � }
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{ PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
AYES: Councilmembers Gorman, Martinez, Riordan, Roth; Mayor DeMirjyn`,,„!
t� NOES: None
ASSENT: None
Public hearing was advertised for this time and place on Ordinance No.
an ordinance of the City of Redlands amending the Traffic Ordinance by
Ordinance the addition of a $10.50 penalty fee for traffic fines that are not paid
No. 2781 within thirty days. Mayor DeMirjyn declared the meeting open as a public
hearing for any questions or comments concerning this amendment to they
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Fines Traffic Ordinance. None being forthcoming, the public hearing was declared i:i'
closed. Councilman Gorman's motion to waive the reading-in-full of this
ordinance was seconded by Councilman Martinez and unanimously adopted by ��4t
a unanimous vote. Then Ordinance No. 1781 was adopted on motion of I
«, Councilman Gorman, seconded by Councilman Martinez, by the following roll
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call vote:
AYES: Councilmembers Gorman, Martinez, Riordan, Roth; Mayor DeMirjyn Y,
NOES: None y�
ABSENT: None
Public hearing was advertised for this time and place on Ordinance No. 1782 , `n
an ordinance of the City of Redlands amending the Subdivision Ordinance
�i to establish a minimum time limit of two years for expiration of a tenta-
tive map for subdivisions and clarifying other matters in relation to map �`y,,;
Ordinance
No. 1782 extensions and removing out-dated material. Mayor DeMirjyn declared the
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meeting open as a public hearing for any questions or comments concerning
! Amend this amendment to the Subdivision Ordinance. None being forthcoming, theAM
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Ordinance public hearing was declared closed. Councilman Gorman's motion to waive
reading of Ordinance No. 1782 in full was seconded by Councilman Martinez '
and adopted by unanimous vote of the City Council. Following this,
G Ordinance No. 1782 was adopted on motion of Councilman Gorman, seconded by
Councilman Martinez, by the following roll call vote: ipa�li�,
AYES: Councilmembers Gorman, Martinez, Riordan, Roth; Mayor DeMirjyn
NOES: None .,;
ABSENT: None”
ORAL PETITIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Candidate for City Council, Mr. Martin Hathaway addressed the Council
stating that he hoped to change the Councilmembers' minds from their vote
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of January 19, 1982 when they adopted Resolution No. 3812, a resolution
establishing a new water rate structure for users of City of Redlands
water. He was critical of the commission meeting times, the Montgomery J'��;
Report, the water rate structure, the departmental budget and other
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matters. Tie stated that the Council had acted in haste. p4r� ry
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Mr. Eldon Vincent read a comprehensive report opposing the rate increase 0 t,}
fon file in the office of the City Clerk) Mr. Joseph Loudikhuis spoke ��;Z}�{
regarding the rate structure, also Ms. Elizabeth Konegri.s; both in
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opposition. "6r1���,
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Public Works Director John Donnelly responded to some of the questions
and comments, outlined budgetary procedures and briefly repeated his
explanations given at the last Council meeting_ He stressed the necessity
. of planning for city growth and reminded all present that there are 2600
approved lots which can be built upon today.
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COMMISSION REPORTS
Planning Commission recommendations as considered by the City Council at al
regular meeting thereof held on February 2, 1982, at 3:00 P.M_
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i PLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS (Continued)Oil
Present: Councilmembers Gorman, Martinez, Riordan, Roth; Mayor DeMirjyn, Attorney 'j�
Holmes, Planning Director Schindler, Deputy Clerk Poyzer
Conditional Use Permit No_ 360 - William and Diane Solberg �` 1,�1i
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That the request for a conditional use permit to convert a residence into � >se
a professional office for property located at 401 Brookside Avenue, A-P
st's Zone, be approved subject to the recommendations of all departments as
contained in Planning Commission minutes dated January 26, 1982, and
subject to Study Map No. 2 submitted January 26, 1982, and in accordance ����
ts`g with findings of Section 52.00(C) of Zoning Ordinance No. 1000. On motion
t( of Councilman Martinez, seconded by Counilman Roth, Conditional Use Permit s�
No. 360 was unanimously approved by Council.
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Council briefly discussed the condition of the Donald House on the corner
# of Brookside Avenue and San Mateo Street. Councilman Roth explained the
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dichondra lawn had become diseased and died; the yard needs to be land- �ti�
scaped but this is not the right time of the year to do it. V,
OTHER PLANNING ITEMS FOR COUNCIL (51)
CONSIDERATION
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RDA No. 81-5A - Transfer Requests
City Manager Christiansen reviewed past action regarding this request to ti's
transfer a residential development allocation starting with Dr. Welch's
_+` { request in December. At this time, Mrs. Evelyn Hall is requesting the „t)
allocation of 24 units be transferred to: Evelyn H. Hall, James E. McQueen,i �t
Donald L. Miller, Charlotte Miller, Rolland W, Moore, Jr., Sally Moore,
,” and Helen B. Harris,
Councilman Roth felt an RDA went with the project and the land. Council-
man Riordan pointed out the plans cannot be changed; that any changes must
again a o through the allocation
g g g process. Councilman Gorman stated Council
had acted in good faith in December but that, in the future, proof of
ownership should be required. Attorney Holmes stated the ordinance does
not contemplate creating anything like a security interest or an interest
' in property that is severable from the property, and that, in his opinion, ",4 r,
RDAs are based solely on a proposed project on a proposed piece of land; r
1 that if the land and project is sold or transferred, the allocation can 4i
move with the land if the project and land is substantially the same.
�N Ingrid Mack addressed Council stating that Dr. Welch did not have title of
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«- the property when he requested the allocation transfer. She also pointed
out that although Dr. Welch had assured Council the project would not
change, she owned the plans and that no one would get the plans from her.
She submitted copies of court documents regarding her lawsuit to the City
fit Attorney stating the property is presently subject to this lawsuit.
Council recesssed on motion at 3:26 P.M. to a closed session for the
purpose of an attorney-client privilege discussion; Council reconvened at
3:48 P.M.
Vernon Crear, agent for Dr. Welch, reviewed the process he had followed
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in December requesting the transfer of the allocation. He felt it would
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not be fair to the present owners if this item was tabled; that they
�"kF should have the privilege of the allocation.
Mrs. Mack spoke briefly again informing Council she was also suing this
third party on the same basis.
Stating he had uneasy feelings, Councilman Roth moved to do nothing further
until Dr. Welch and Mrs. Hall, et all, came forward with proof of owner-
ship on the days in question, and then Council would take appropriate action.
eft' Motion seconded by Councilman Gorman.
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Mrs. Hall questioned the necessity of involving Dr. Welch since she is
now the new owner. Councilman Roth explained he wanted clarification;
that if Dr. Welch did not own the property on December 15, then he felt
the action taken at that meeting was null and void. Councilman Gorman
extensively questioned Mrs. Hall if she absolutely understood that if the !
1\s9i; allocation transfer was granted, there could not be any changes in the a�=
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plans. She replied the plot plans were a matter of public record, and in
answer to the questions if she owned or had control of the project plans, �
she stated she understood it was just a service, that no one owns those j
plans, and that she could buy it. She stated several times she would
abide by the original plans as approved.
� Councilman Roth's motion then carried by unanimous vote of the Council.
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OTHER PIANNING ITEMS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION (Continued) +t
2. Tentative Tract No. 10720 - Bob A. Tee Development Co., Inc. - V
Time Extension ;j
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On motion of Councilman Martinez, seconded by Councilman Riordan, a time )(Do
extension of one year to March 3, 1983, was unanimously given for Tentative
Tract No. 10720. E
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` 3. Conditional Use Permit No. 341 - Tony Tucker - Time Extension4s`t�;
On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Martinez, a time
extension of one year to February 3, 1983, was unanimously given for �Jrs
Conditional Use Permit No. 341.
4. Tentative Tract No. 10637 - Michael Leon - Final Approval
All requirements as outlined in Council minutes dated February 6, 1979, +`J
�t1 having been complied with, it is the recommendation of the Planning Depart V
J ment that final approval be given Tentative Tract No, 10637. On motion of
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Councilman Martinez, seconded by Councilman Gorman, this recommendation of '&
the Planning Department was unanimously approved by Council.
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5. Conditional Use Permit No. 356 - Redlands Convenience Center/Alabama '
�(l Redlands Association - Final Approval
All requirements as outlined in Council minutes dated January 19, 1982,
+i, ! having been complied with, it is the recommendation of the Planning Depart
ment that final approval be given Conditional Use Permit No. 356. On
motion of Councilman Gorman, seconded by Councilman Riordan, this recom
"art mendation of the Planning Department was unanimously approved by Council. h
' 6. Vanguard National Builders - Building Permit Allocations
NMr. Schindler submitted a memo explaining that on December 31., 1979,
t;��( Vanguard National Builders received a building permit allocation for 38
i� units. The associated Tract No. 10083 was granted tentative approval on �f+�
February 20, 1979. The applicant has received two one-yeas time extensions!
;1 w, and the tract map will expire on February 20, 1982. Due to money market
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A conditions, Vanguard is reluctant to record the tract. The question has �;i�I,
t. �+ been raised that if the map is allowed to expire, will the building permit h~t
allocation be forfeited. Mr. Schindler stated the Planning Department has
had two inquiries on this subject and asked for Council direction since ;m
the ordinance is silent on this subject. Councilman Roth felt the alloca-
tion goes with the project and land, and he did not like the idea of thisY"!
Council just being continued. Councilman Gorman agreed that it should be the same i is
Policy as the tentative map expiration. on motion of Councilman Roth, seconded "+�f
by Councilman Gorman, Council unanimously ordered that Residential Develop 3,
ment Allocations will expire at the time the tentative tract map expires
7. John Moore/Specific Plan No. 23 '`
(�X Mr. Schindler reported that drawings were received earlier this afternoon ;WA
reflecting an agreement between the engineers and Dr. Johnson, but that Mr [,u
Moore has not had an opportunity to review them yet. The agreetment
1' appears to be acceptable. �`��
Mr. Moore stated he felt they were getting closer to a solution although 1 '��tii�l,i
it will put more burden on the cost of his project because of the designed
�h{ drainage facilities. Continuing he felt that if all parties involved I
could come to an agreement with the paperwork, he would be able to live
1i with it. At this time, Mr. Moore requested a thirty day postponement of ��
sf any action in order to complete preparation of the documents. Council
concurred to continue this matter until Mr. Moore requests it be placed
zli on the agenda.
There being no further business, Council adjourned to a closed session �,lti4
for the purpose of discussion of matters covered by the attorney-client
j: privilege.
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On motion of Dr. Roth, seconded by Councilman Riordan, Attorney Scott
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x'01 Reynolds and Mrs. Joan Dotson were unanimously appointed to terms on the
Appointments Planning Commission. By the same motion, Mr. Manuel Madrid was reappointed jE
�` to another term. A letter of appreciation was authorized to Mrs. Betty
Petersen for her service on the commission.
k) Councilman Riordan spoke briefly of Chairman, Attorney Ed Hales' more than ,
a thirty-five years on the Planning Commission, most of them as chairman, 5g
fand stated that something very special was being planned in a month. (#�
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COMMISSION REPORTS (Continued)
Park Commission - The Commission will be asked to study the Carob tree
situation atos meeting on February 4 to obtain professional advice on
the present condition and possible best treatment for the trees. Dr.
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' Roth stated that a similar problem exists with the Carob trees across
Eureka from the trees in question. He mentioned the possible closing of R
Eureka to create a park from the Library to the Bowl.
Resolution Traffic Commission - On motion of Councilman Roth, seconded by Councilman
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No. 3813 Gorman, Resolution� No. 3813, a resolution of the City Council establish-
Bus ing no parking for bus loading zones on Terracina Boulevard and Fern Ave-
Loading nue, was unanimously adopted. Councilmember Riordan asked that a bench
Zones be added for waiting bus riders.
Library Board - On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman
Appointment Gorman, Mr. Jack Tompkins was unanimously appointed membership on the
Library Board replacing Mr. William G. Moore.
APPLICATIONS AND PETITIONS
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Parking The request that the two-hour parking zone in the 400 block of Citrus
Time Avenue be changed to three hour parking was referred to the Traffic Com-
Change: mission on motion of Councilman Gorman, seconded by Councilman Riordan.
Cit of On motion of Councilman Martinez, seconded by Councilman Riordan, Council
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Hope unanimously gave permission to the City of Mope to hold its annual. "Hope
Sunday„ on June 13, 1982, to conduct a solicitation for funds.
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COMMUNICATIONS
O en House Library Director Phyllis Irshay invited all. to attend the 10th annual
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Lincoln Open House celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the Lincoln Shrine on
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Sunday from 2:00 to 5:00 P.M. Dr. Larry Burgess will speak.
Vice Mayor Gorman reported that the Tennessee Street Freeway has cleared
"another hurdle" and may yet receive approval due to the repeated flooding'
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CITY MANAGER.
On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Martinez, the '51
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Bic: Call City Clerk was authorized to advertize for bids for the installation of a
Traffic
s I Signals traffic signal at the intersection of Orange Street and Pennsylvania
Avenue, using Community Block Grant Funds.
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Quitclaim On motion of Councilman Riordan, seconded by Councilman Martinez, theNO
1- Deed City authorized execution of a Quitclaim Deed for a portion of an easement' .
Buster in Kansas Street, now vacated, to William C. and Beita M. Buster. The
{ Mayor and City Clerk were authorized to sign in behalf of the City.
Resolution
Resolution No. 3814, a resolution of the City Council approving Supplement;
No. X814 No. 11 of the Master Agreement between the City and the State of California
Railroad for installation of automatic gates at Lincoln Street and the A.T. & S.F.
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Lincolhts tSt. Railroad Crossing, was unanimously adopted on motion of Councilman Riordan:,
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seconded by Councilman Martinez.
A claim against the city in the name of State Farm Insurance Company in
behalf of Mildred Roth was denied and ordered sent to the City's riskVMS
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Claimmanager and the City's excess insurance carrier on motion of Councilman
` Gorman, seconded by Councilman Roth.
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CITY MANAGED (Continued)
� E{ Authorization was unanimously given .for transfer of $1500 from water funds �t
Funds
to obtain engineering services to develop proper engineering and environ
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� mental material for presentation to the U, S. Army Corps of Engineers ins
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seconded by Councilman Gorman. '
Bills and salaries were ordered paid as approved by the Finance Committee
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4 Next regular meeting, February 16, 1982. 4tF
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